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<blockquote data-quote="_Lee_" data-source="post: 487937" data-attributes="member: 418"><p>Great post.</p><p></p><p>Even though I know I was a naysayer on the Palitoy VCJ theory I was proven wrong which I freely admit to. However, what does concern me is how many of these seem to be getting 'found' now. I first heard of the theory in early 2000 and spoke with many collectors about it whom also seemed to consider it false. Its amazing how many have surfaced and also alarming how these have been found in collectors with shady pasts. Im not going to go into all that again, but the information is out there. I was actually glad I was proved wrong, but then again im worried about them suddenly 'popping up' so to say.</p><p></p><p>Im pretty sure there are some fakes in circulation and however painful it may sound, there probably are loads out there. Toni managed to pretty much cripple the hobby for a lot of people, and the only thing he had right were the original cards. However, he actually fooled MANY collectors to the point were they were trying to deny it happened. I actually own a TT and although I know its fake, I got it for next to nothing from a good friend. However, there are many people whom got stung for a lot of money. I remember when I bought a Fett, Lando Skiff and C3P0 from Toni in 2000 and I said to someone at the time that something wasn't right and he said I was nuts. I was of the opinion that if I mentioned my thoughts, I would be hung,drawn and quartered!!! Many people had thousands tied up in these even before the price hikes and then it all came crashing down. I would also like to say that I do think there are many legit Palitoy cards out there which are being deemed as Toy Tonis, and that together with Tonis mash ups have destroyed the faith in that line.</p><p></p><p>The ironic thing about all this is that I originally started this little investigation because of the hot weather we have been having. I don't suppose many would have though that this is one of the hottest periods on record for the UK, I myself cannot remember such a long period of heat?? Im just hoping that many collectors have looked after their collections properly and not let some become damaged from heat. Lets think of it this way, you are paying at least £5-800 for the least popular Palitoy 12 backs - that is a lot of money to have tied up in plastic and card. It is a very worrying idea, and seeing as though Chewbaccas, Lukes etc go for a lot more is it now a risky gamble to join the club? Although we look at a card and know that It was made in the 70's. sat on a shop shelf and was bought then it adds to the aura of the piece. That figure has been in there for nearly 40 years and has stood the test of time but for how much longer?? Is this the reason people turn to repros?</p><p></p><p>Lee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="_Lee_, post: 487937, member: 418"] Great post. Even though I know I was a naysayer on the Palitoy VCJ theory I was proven wrong which I freely admit to. However, what does concern me is how many of these seem to be getting 'found' now. I first heard of the theory in early 2000 and spoke with many collectors about it whom also seemed to consider it false. Its amazing how many have surfaced and also alarming how these have been found in collectors with shady pasts. Im not going to go into all that again, but the information is out there. I was actually glad I was proved wrong, but then again im worried about them suddenly 'popping up' so to say. Im pretty sure there are some fakes in circulation and however painful it may sound, there probably are loads out there. Toni managed to pretty much cripple the hobby for a lot of people, and the only thing he had right were the original cards. However, he actually fooled MANY collectors to the point were they were trying to deny it happened. I actually own a TT and although I know its fake, I got it for next to nothing from a good friend. However, there are many people whom got stung for a lot of money. I remember when I bought a Fett, Lando Skiff and C3P0 from Toni in 2000 and I said to someone at the time that something wasn't right and he said I was nuts. I was of the opinion that if I mentioned my thoughts, I would be hung,drawn and quartered!!! Many people had thousands tied up in these even before the price hikes and then it all came crashing down. I would also like to say that I do think there are many legit Palitoy cards out there which are being deemed as Toy Tonis, and that together with Tonis mash ups have destroyed the faith in that line. The ironic thing about all this is that I originally started this little investigation because of the hot weather we have been having. I don't suppose many would have though that this is one of the hottest periods on record for the UK, I myself cannot remember such a long period of heat?? Im just hoping that many collectors have looked after their collections properly and not let some become damaged from heat. Lets think of it this way, you are paying at least £5-800 for the least popular Palitoy 12 backs - that is a lot of money to have tied up in plastic and card. It is a very worrying idea, and seeing as though Chewbaccas, Lukes etc go for a lot more is it now a risky gamble to join the club? Although we look at a card and know that It was made in the 70's. sat on a shop shelf and was bought then it adds to the aura of the piece. That figure has been in there for nearly 40 years and has stood the test of time but for how much longer?? Is this the reason people turn to repros? Lee [/QUOTE]
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