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Why do most SW fans say ESB is the best film in the OT?
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<blockquote data-quote="Crumm" data-source="post: 474194" data-attributes="member: 9756"><p>Empire is also my least favourite of the OT.</p><p></p><p>My order is ANH, RotJ, ESB.</p><p></p><p>I think people like Empire so much because basically everything goes wrong for the rebels, and by the end of the film they are the ones who are worse off. I think this creates a more emotional anchor-point for the audience "OMG, what will happen to Han?", "OMG, Vader is Lukes father?". </p><p></p><p>Echo base is overcome and the rebels are on the run, Luke begins serious Jedi training (with mixed success at first), Han is caught and carbonited (with an emotional scene involving Leia), and then the BIG reveal at the end.</p><p></p><p>The big reveal at the end counts for a lot, even though it is my least favourite of the OT, "I am your father" is my favourite overall moment of the OT, it's just such an iconic scene, heck, the whole Luke vs Vader fight is awesome. Once the fight gets going you really and genuinely begin to feel the fact that Luke is realising he just can't win. You can see him falling apart right there on the screen but he carries on fighting anyway, Kudos to Mark Hamill for pulling off such a great scene here.</p><p></p><p>ANH will always be my favourite, it is big, fun, and just a great rollicking action movie to watch, it has everything. They literally struck gold with it, everything came together in one of those lightning-in-a-bottle moments in time. They don't happen very often, but when they do something like ANH is the result, it can change the world (and it did). </p><p></p><p>ESB digs a bit deeper, and I think people responded to that because they had already invested so much in these characters that became a pop-culture phenomenon. Whilst ESB is my least favourite of the OT, I simply can't fault it, the only reason it <strong><em><u>is</u></em></strong> my least favourite is because I like the other two more <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />. If there is one thing I could fault it is the environments, they don't really do anything for me, but that is personal taste, not the film itself.</p><p></p><p>RotJ is my second favourite because as Subzero said, what a way to end it all. The Jabbas palace and battle scenes are amazing, Luke as a full fledged Jedi Knight is just great, The Emperor was awesome and the final lightsaber fight and space battles are just jaw-dropping considering most of the work was done in 1982! In fact, the Death Star II space battle looks better than <strong><em><u>anything</u></em></strong> in the prequels with all the CGI. RotJ just looks awesome, it is very well polished and a fantastic film visually. Just stuff like the Death Star hangar where the Imperial shuttle lands in the first scene, the Emperor's Royal Guards, Jabba's throne room, it all just looks so great (even Vader has had his helmet buffed in this one! :lol: ).</p><p></p><p>No matter what happens going forward, we will always have ANH, ESB and RotJ, and for that I am eternally grateful :lol:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crumm, post: 474194, member: 9756"] Empire is also my least favourite of the OT. My order is ANH, RotJ, ESB. I think people like Empire so much because basically everything goes wrong for the rebels, and by the end of the film they are the ones who are worse off. I think this creates a more emotional anchor-point for the audience "OMG, what will happen to Han?", "OMG, Vader is Lukes father?". Echo base is overcome and the rebels are on the run, Luke begins serious Jedi training (with mixed success at first), Han is caught and carbonited (with an emotional scene involving Leia), and then the BIG reveal at the end. The big reveal at the end counts for a lot, even though it is my least favourite of the OT, "I am your father" is my favourite overall moment of the OT, it's just such an iconic scene, heck, the whole Luke vs Vader fight is awesome. Once the fight gets going you really and genuinely begin to feel the fact that Luke is realising he just can't win. You can see him falling apart right there on the screen but he carries on fighting anyway, Kudos to Mark Hamill for pulling off such a great scene here. ANH will always be my favourite, it is big, fun, and just a great rollicking action movie to watch, it has everything. They literally struck gold with it, everything came together in one of those lightning-in-a-bottle moments in time. They don't happen very often, but when they do something like ANH is the result, it can change the world (and it did). ESB digs a bit deeper, and I think people responded to that because they had already invested so much in these characters that became a pop-culture phenomenon. Whilst ESB is my least favourite of the OT, I simply can't fault it, the only reason it [b][i][u]is[/u][/i][/b] my least favourite is because I like the other two more :D. If there is one thing I could fault it is the environments, they don't really do anything for me, but that is personal taste, not the film itself. RotJ is my second favourite because as Subzero said, what a way to end it all. The Jabbas palace and battle scenes are amazing, Luke as a full fledged Jedi Knight is just great, The Emperor was awesome and the final lightsaber fight and space battles are just jaw-dropping considering most of the work was done in 1982! In fact, the Death Star II space battle looks better than [b][i][u]anything[/u][/i][/b] in the prequels with all the CGI. RotJ just looks awesome, it is very well polished and a fantastic film visually. Just stuff like the Death Star hangar where the Imperial shuttle lands in the first scene, the Emperor's Royal Guards, Jabba's throne room, it all just looks so great (even Vader has had his helmet buffed in this one! :lol: ). No matter what happens going forward, we will always have ANH, ESB and RotJ, and for that I am eternally grateful :lol: [/QUOTE]
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