12 C VCJ with Harbert Sticker

ScruffyLookingNH · Mar 28, 2017

maxf said:
Ten THOUSAND pounds.... a steal? I think we need to step back and take a look at ourselves here.

It went for way more than a Kenner version would have (in the same condition) and is effectively a rather niche sticker variation.

10 Grand just can't be considered 'cheap' can it? Was anybody here bidding?

Yep. And I stand by that. How many Kenner VCJ MOCs have you seen? I know I've seen 5 or 6 and I'm betting there's easily double digit numbers out there. How many of these have you seen? A Blue Snag baggie is now, apparently, north of a grand. Jesus, loose VCJs are now £1,400 quid. No, £10,000 will never be considered a reasonable price for a toy, but then, to be honest, neither is £100 for a toy that could have cost someone 49p. Show me a Trilogo Jawa for less than £3,000 now. It's all relative. You make me sound like I think £10k is normal to blow on a toy. Of course it isn't. But relatively speaking, in this era of SW insanity, I consider this cheap.

This is, possibly, a unique survivor, certainly in terms of condition. I do acknowledge it's pretty darned niche, though.

This would have gone much higher had a certain big collector not had doubts about it and it's back story. Had he, and possibly other collectors, not shied away from it then yes, I think £10k would not be looking like a deal, a steal, the sale of the f%&£ing century

maxf · Mar 28, 2017

ScruffyLookingNH said:
maxf said:

Ten THOUSAND pounds.... a steal? I think we need to step back and take a look at ourselves here.

It went for way more than a Kenner version would have (in the same condition) and is effectively a rather niche sticker variation.

10 Grand just can't be considered 'cheap' can it? Was anybody here bidding?

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Yep. And I stand by that. How many Kenner VCJ MOCs have you seen? I know I've seen 5 or 6 and I'm betting there's easily double digit numbers out there. How many of these have you seen? A Blue Snag baggie is now, apparently, north of a grand. Jesus, loose VCJs are now £1,400 quid. No, £10,000 will never be considered a reasonable price for a toy, but then, to be honest, neither is £100 for a toy that could have cost someone 49p. Show me a Trilogo Jawa for less than £3,000 now. It's all relative. You make me sound like I think £10k is normal to blow on a toy. Of course it isn't. But relatively speaking, in this era of SW insanity, I consider this cheap.

This is, possibly, a unique survivor, certainly in terms of condition. I do acknowledge it's pretty darned niche, though.

This would have gone much higher had a certain big collector not had doubts about it and it's back story. Had he, and possibly other collectors, not shied away from it then yes, I think £10k would not be looking like a deal, a steal, the sale of the f%&£ing century

I bet there are 100 plus VC jawas out there - easily - but way more collectors would be after one.

I still can't consider this the bargain people are saying it is - why weren't you all bidding?!

Anyway, I'm happy to be within £300 of my estimate earlier in the start of the thread

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stormcab · Mar 28, 2017

SAVORY100 said:
How do you display it though? Front out with an angled mirror behind or sticker out with angled mirror behind? Surely seeing it in the round is key to the piece being what it is?

Lindo · Mar 28, 2017

was that 10k with fees or without fees? if without then whats thats 13K!!

maxf · Mar 28, 2017

Lindo said:
was that 10k with fees or without fees? if without then whats thats 13K!!

No, that was all in. £8,500 hammer.

Lindo · Mar 28, 2017

that's not as bad as I thought then

wrighty · Mar 28, 2017

Two unique (if you want to call it that):

1. VCJ on a 12 C back - most common is A back then B and only know of 2 C''s
2. The Harbert sticker

This is niche item for a variant or focus collector of the character. I am sure its not with a Jawa collector (we are too tight ass).

Anyone wanting a VCJ on card will be stupid to go for this, to pay a premium for something you may not care. I did know someone in US that bought a VCJ MOC for a good price on eBay due to a lowish grade without noticing it was a B back, bonus!!

palitoyjunky · Mar 28, 2017

I bet there are 100 plus VC jawas out there - easily - but way more collectors would be after one.

I still can't consider this the bargain people are saying it is - why weren't you all bidding?!

Anyway, I'm happy to be within £300 of my estimate earlier in the start of the thread

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I rem years ago the US dealers 'Plastic Dreams' acquired no less than 18 Kenner MOC VCJs in one hit :!:

maxf · Mar 28, 2017

palitoyjunky said:
I rem years ago the US dealers 'Plastic Dreams acquired no less than 18 Kenner MOC VCJs in one hit :!:

I bought one from him. All ex-cinema stock!

wrighty · Mar 28, 2017

maxf said:
palitoyjunky said:

I rem years ago the US dealers 'Plastic Dreams acquired no less than 18 Kenner MOC VCJs in one hit :!:

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I bought one from him. All ex-cinema stock!

Anyone has a link to the write up? I remember reading it but can't remember where, he was working at the cinema and they were in the store room and he bought or took it home. That's what you call a FIND!

wrighty · Mar 28, 2017

By the way all A backs though!! :lol:

palitoyjunky · Mar 28, 2017

maxf said:
palitoyjunky said:

I rem years ago the US dealers 'Plastic Dreams acquired no less than 18 Kenner MOC VCJs in one hit :!:

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I bought one from him. All ex-cinema stock!

That's right. In a range of conditions. They were selling near perfect examples for around $3000 back then which was v expensive :!:

Wreck-It Ralph · Mar 28, 2017

ScruffyLookingNH said:
maxf said:

Ten THOUSAND pounds.... a steal? I think we need to step back and take a look at ourselves here.

It went for way more than a Kenner version would have (in the same condition) and is effectively a rather niche sticker variation.

10 Grand just can't be considered 'cheap' can it? Was anybody here bidding?

Click to expand...

Yep. And I stand by that. How many Kenner VCJ MOCs have you seen? I know I've seen 5 or 6 and I'm betting there's easily double digit numbers out there. How many of these have you seen? A Blue Snag baggie is now, apparently, north of a grand. Jesus, loose VCJs are now £1,400 quid. No, £10,000 will never be considered a reasonable price for a toy, but then, to be honest, neither is £100 for a toy that could have cost someone 49p. Show me a Trilogo Jawa for less than £3,000 now. It's all relative. You make me sound like I think £10k is normal to blow on a toy. Of course it isn't. But relatively speaking, in this era of SW insanity, I consider this cheap.

This is, possibly, a unique survivor, certainly in terms of condition. I do acknowledge it's pretty darned niche, though.

This would have gone much higher had a certain big collector not had doubts about it and it's back story. Had he, and possibly other collectors, not shied away from it then yes, I think £10k would not be looking like a deal, a steal, the sale of the f%&£ing century

Hi

I have no idea who the collector is you are talking about but why would he or other collectors doubt it or shie away from it?

maxf · Mar 28, 2017

palitoyjunky said:
maxf said:

palitoyjunky said:

I rem years ago the US dealers 'Plastic Dreams acquired no less than 18 Kenner MOC VCJs in one hit :!:

Click to expand...

I bought one from him. All ex-cinema stock!

Click to expand...

That's right. In a range of conditions. They were selling near perfect examples for around $3000 back then which was v expensive :!:

They were give aways for the cinema and these were left over. All of the ones I saw had the pop removed - I thought they all did as the cinema owner sent off for the offers. They were sold in 1999 or 2000. I paid $400 for one with no pop but still totally sealed (pop peeled off).

palitoyjunky · Mar 28, 2017

Not bad mate :!:

ScruffyLookingNH · Mar 29, 2017

maxf said:
ScruffyLookingNH said:

maxf said:

Ten THOUSAND pounds.... a steal? I think we need to step back and take a look at ourselves here.

It went for way more than a Kenner version would have (in the same condition) and is effectively a rather niche sticker variation.

10 Grand just can't be considered 'cheap' can it? Was anybody here bidding?

Click to expand...

Yep. And I stand by that. How many Kenner VCJ MOCs have you seen? I know I've seen 5 or 6 and I'm betting there's easily double digit numbers out there. How many of these have you seen? A Blue Snag baggie is now, apparently, north of a grand. Jesus, loose VCJs are now £1,400 quid. No, £10,000 will never be considered a reasonable price for a toy, but then, to be honest, neither is £100 for a toy that could have cost someone 49p. Show me a Trilogo Jawa for less than £3,000 now. It's all relative. You make me sound like I think £10k is normal to blow on a toy. Of course it isn't. But relatively speaking, in this era of SW insanity, I consider this cheap.

This is, possibly, a unique survivor, certainly in terms of condition. I do acknowledge it's pretty darned niche, though.

This would have gone much higher had a certain big collector not had doubts about it and it's back story. Had he, and possibly other collectors, not shied away from it then yes, I think £10k would not be looking like a deal, a steal, the sale of the f%&£ing century

Click to expand...

I bet there are 100 plus VC jawas out there - easily - but way more collectors would be after one.

I still can't consider this the bargain people are saying it is - why weren't you all bidding?!

Anyway, I'm happy to be within £300 of my estimate earlier in the start of the thread .

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Smart arse :lol:

Why didn't I bid on it? Because I'm busy selling not buying. And even if I wasn't, I could not possibly bring myself to spend 6 times the value of my car on a toy. Any toy.

I consider a lot of things in life a "bargain" but it doesn't mean I get to buy them. SW franchise for $4.05bn dollars, anyone? Tell me that wasn't a bargain

Disney are laughing all the way to Scrooge McDuck's vault at that price.

maxf · Mar 29, 2017

ScruffyLookingNH said:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Smart arse :lol:

Why didn't I bid on it? Because I'm busy selling not buying. And even if I wasn't, I could not possibly bring myself to spend 6 times the value of my car on a toy. Any toy.

I consider a lot of things in life a "bargain" but it doesn't mean I get to buy them. SW franchise for $4.05bn dollars, anyone? Tell me that wasn't a bargain Disney are laughing all the way to Scrooge McDuck's vault at that price.

My comments weren't just towards you - loads on FB were saying how 'cheap' this was.

poncho · Mar 30, 2017

bbc article

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-39423107

lejackal · Mar 30, 2017

Anyone else think that backstory sounds like B###s##t?

Richard_H · Mar 30, 2017

yes. the backstory is very weak.

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