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What could Kenner have done better ?

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Re: What could Kenner have done better ?

Postby elcroz » Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:39 pm

Kenner could have done better on certain things BUT...

Kenner also did too well / put too much effort into certain things:

I’ll name just one figure, he was a ROTJ figure, he had a grey Bespin blaster, Cloth Cape, Cloth Skirt and Belt. He was only seen in the background on the film for a millisecond.

Why did they put sooooo much effort into this figure? He was literally an extra.

Feel free to add what you feel Kenner went overboard on.

PS. He is my favourite figure :mrgreen:

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Re: What could Kenner have done better ?

Postby Pomse2001 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:04 am

TK-7785 wrote:I don't understand the hate those little, furry buggers get. I think you just need to open your mind to a new belief system/cult.

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Ok that is funny :lol:

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Re: What could Kenner have done better ?

Postby Pomse2001 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:06 am

reddogblues wrote:They stunned R2 and then kidnapped him and 3PO, selling them to the highest bidder. Plus I can't abide them, disgusting creatures :D


I call tusken raiders and jawas neutral :lol:

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Re: What could Kenner have done better ?

Postby Pomse2001 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:08 am

reddogblues wrote:Thinking about it and my tirade as to why Kenner did not release a Rebel Fleet Trooper, I may have thought of the reason.

It is too perplexing as to why not, as it makes sense on many levels (recreating battles, troop building etc). But, when they were creating the first 12 figures, maybe they thought the goodie to baddie ratio was out of whack.

So - goodies: Luke, Han, Leia, 3PO, R2, Ben and Chewie (7)
Baddies: Vader, Stormtrooper, Sand People, Jawa (4)

To have the Rebel Trooper would therefore have meant 8 goodies and only 4 baddies. Instead, making the DSC evened it out a little to 7 goodies and 5 baddies.

As to why they didn't then release it in the next wave I have no idea! :lol:


Sounds like that could be the reason but as you write why didn't they release it in the next wave :? :shock:

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Re: What could Kenner have done better ?

Postby Pomse2001 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:52 am

Clarkspie&chips wrote:Good theory on the rebel trooper.
The next 8 releases up to 20 backs make sense too:
4 aliens to go with the creature cantina palyset
3 new droids to go with the droid factory/land of the jawas
Luke x wing to go with the ship

Then they went with Fett and before you know it Empire is round the corner and the Star Wars line gets put on hold until POTF. So the rebel trooper didn’t really have a chance.


The next 8 releases up to 20 backs, could they not have done 9 or 10 and not only 8 ? :? Then they could have done the Rebel Trooper and the Tie Figter Pilot, so kids not should wait for late esb to get the tie fighter pilot :?

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Re: What could Kenner have done better ?

Postby Pomse2001 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:56 am

weasel wrote:
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Just to let everyone know, sadly Lars won't be taking any further part in this thread. I spoke to his carers and they were amazed he had managed to log on to a forum and type semi coherent messages given the sheer dose of medication he was on. They have assured me he won't be able to do it again as his new "coat" fastens up the back :wink:

Poor Lars.


Thanks mate :lol: sounds like you need some Ewok love :lol:

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How did you manage to type that using only your nose? No way you could type with your new backwards fastening coat on. :wink:


I used the Sunstar to type it, the Sunstar is stronger than the force :lol:

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Re: What could Kenner have done better ?

Postby Pomse2001 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:00 am

elcroz wrote:Kenner could have done better on certain things BUT...

Kenner also did too well / put too much effort into certain things:

I’ll name just one figure, he was a ROTJ figure, he had a grey Bespin blaster, Cloth Cape, Cloth Skirt and Belt. He was only seen in the background on the film for a millisecond.

Why did they put sooooo much effort into this figure? He was literally an extra.

Feel free to add what you feel Kenner went overboard on.

PS. He is my favourite figure :mrgreen:


I agree Squid Head was one of the figures they used a lot of energy to make and we only saw him in a few seconds in the movie. It was great work. Very strange that they did that, but then again Red Snaggletooth did we also only see in a few seconds but I guess they did not use a lot of time to create him :?

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Re: What could Kenner have done better ?

Postby reddogblues » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:46 pm

Pomse2001 wrote:
reddogblues wrote:They stunned R2 and then kidnapped him and 3PO, selling them to the highest bidder. Plus I can't abide them, disgusting creatures :D


I call tusken raiders and jawas neutral :lol:


I agree - they were neither rebels or Imperials, like the Switzerland of the SW universe...

In which case, it adds even more weight to the argument that they created a DSC at the expense of the Rebel Trooper, as they felt they needed more baddies.

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Re: What could Kenner have done better ?

Postby weasel » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:49 pm

Pomse2001 wrote:I used the Sunstar to type it, the Sunstar is stronger than the force :lol:



Now, I'm lost. What the heck is the Sunstar!?
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Re: What could Kenner have done better ?

Postby Pomse2001 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:35 pm

reddogblues wrote:
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reddogblues wrote:They stunned R2 and then kidnapped him and 3PO, selling them to the highest bidder. Plus I can't abide them, disgusting creatures :D


I call tusken raiders and jawas neutral :lol:


I agree - they were neither rebels or Imperials, like the Switzerland of the SW universe...

In which case, it adds even more weight to the argument that they created a DSC at the expense of the Rebel Trooper, as they felt they needed more baddies.


But the DSC looked like the rebel fleet trooper, they could have used the same head, would it
not have been easy for them to create one ? :? Could be cool if somebody from the factory had info about why we did not get that figure :D

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Re: What could Kenner have done better ?

Postby Pomse2001 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:44 pm

weasel wrote:
Pomse2001 wrote:I used the Sunstar to type it, the Sunstar is stronger than the force :lol:



Now, I'm lost. What the heck is the Sunstar!?


You have to see the ewoks cartoon tv series :lol:

It is a magic rock that logray use in the tv series it is very powerful and can open gates to other worlds etc. etc. :lol: :lol:
Even the empire are after it so they can use the power :lol:

An imperial Dr. named Raygar attempted to steal it and use it to gain control of the Galactic Empire in one of the episodes, now you have to watch it :lol:

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Re: What could Kenner have done better ?

Postby Ruby2511 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:54 pm

elcroz wrote:Kenner could have done better on certain things BUT...

Kenner also did too well / put too much effort into certain things:

I’ll name just one figure, he was a ROTJ figure, he had a grey Bespin blaster, Cloth Cape, Cloth Skirt and Belt. He was only seen in the background on the film for a millisecond.

Why did they put sooooo much effort into this figure? He was literally an extra.

Feel free to add what you feel Kenner went overboard on.

PS. He is my favourite figure :mrgreen:


Agree he is a mighty fine figure and one of the first figures i bought when i started collecting again, his accessories are impressive for such a background character. I think that a leia slave should have been made for ROTJ (missed opportunity there :wink: ) and a Han stormtrooper as well, why have Luke and not Han ???
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Re: What could Kenner have done better ?

Postby weasel » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:52 am

Pomse2001 wrote:
weasel wrote:
Pomse2001 wrote:I used the Sunstar to type it, the Sunstar is stronger than the force :lol:



Now, I'm lost. What the heck is the Sunstar!?


You have to see the ewoks cartoon tv series :lol:

It is a magic rock that logray use in the tv series it is very powerful and can open gates to other worlds etc. etc. :lol: :lol:
Even the empire are after it so they can use the power :lol:

An imperial Dr. named Raygar attempted to steal it and use it to gain control of the Galactic Empire in one of the episodes, now you have to watch it :lol:


Rrriiiigggghhhhhtttt.
I think I'll give it a miss.
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Re: What could Kenner have done better ?

Postby Pomse2001 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:15 am

weasel wrote:
Pomse2001 wrote:
weasel wrote:

Now, I'm lost. What the heck is the Sunstar!?


You have to see the ewoks cartoon tv series :lol:

It is a magic rock that logray use in the tv series it is very powerful and can open gates to other worlds etc. etc. :lol: :lol:
Even the empire are after it so they can use the power :lol:

An imperial Dr. named Raygar attempted to steal it and use it to gain control of the Galactic Empire in one of the episodes, now you have to watch it :lol:


Rrriiiigggghhhhhtttt.
I think I'll give it a miss.


:lol: I must admit some of the episodes in season 2 could have been made a lot better, if I was 5 years old then maybe all the episodes was good :lol:

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Re: What could Kenner have done better ?

Postby ChallengerFox » Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:56 pm

I would have preferred cloth capes for Vader, Kenobi and the Tusken Raider, also another Vader with a removable helmet in the last 17 instead of one of the Ewoks maybe.


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