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Resealed figure discovery debate - G.Kurtz Palitoy VC Jawa.

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Re: Resealed figure discovery debate - G.Kurtz Palitoy VC Jawa.

Postby mr_palitoy » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:13 pm

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ScruffyLookingNH wrote:I'd hand fire on being so sure. There's split opinion on it being a TT. Personally, I think it is but as Edd says, a photo from between the bubble stems will help as will an angled shot of the rear to see if there is any impression or the bubble at all. Don't write it off just yet....


As yet none of the bubbles with irregularly spaced pin holes have been seen on genuine MOCs. The pin hole bubbles also have double stems

Happy to be proved wrong but that's the biggest tell to me


Those pin holes were on a lot of my ROTJ AFA 90 palitoy Tonis. Either they are bubble defects and hence why the bubbles were never used in the factory or they are imprints made by a tool Toni used to keep the bubbles in place while they were being sealed. Either way, as you say, they are only seen on cards Toni has sealed.

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Re: Resealed figure discovery debate - G.Kurtz Palitoy VC Jawa.

Postby spoons » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:00 pm

Thanks Jason - thought my pinhole comments were going unheeded :)
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Re: Resealed figure discovery debate - G.Kurtz Palitoy VC Jawa.

Postby itfciain » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:08 pm

Are the pin holes found on graded cards - and if so did it affect the grades at all ?
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Postby spoons » Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:20 pm

:lol:

Read Jason's post again Iain ;)
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Re: Resealed figure discovery debate - G.Kurtz Palitoy VC Jawa.

Postby itfciain » Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:47 pm

spoons wrote::lol:

Read Jason's post again Iain ;)


Yes, English has never been my strong point - wonder how they graded 90 with pin hole ? And what AFA put them down to if they didn't count against condition
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Re: Resealed figure discovery debate - G.Kurtz Palitoy VC Jawa.

Postby spoons » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:21 pm

They look fairly meant, AFA haven't covered themselves in glory over this and I dont think they even questioned them.

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Re: Resealed figure discovery debate - G.Kurtz Palitoy VC Jawa.

Postby mr_palitoy » Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:46 am

itfciain wrote:
spoons wrote::lol:

Read Jason's post again Iain ;)


Yes, English has never been my strong point - wonder how they graded 90 with pin hole ? And what AFA put them down to if they didn't count against condition


Some of the bubbles even had corner splits on them and subgraded 95. You can see the full assessment of them all here:-

http://www.starwarsforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=19154

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Re: Resealed figure discovery debate - G.Kurtz Palitoy VC Jawa.

Postby _Lee_ » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:10 pm

Stinger,

Can you put up a photo of the TFP again please bud ? Ive been researching this particular back this week and would like to see yours again please mate.

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Re: Resealed figure discovery debate - G.Kurtz Palitoy VC Jawa.

Postby Stinger » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:33 am

_Lee_ wrote:Stinger,

Can you put up a photo of the TFP again please bud ? Ive been researching this particular back this week and would like to see yours again please mate.

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Here we go Lee! I can't upload bigger pics as it says file to large, let me know if you need a better resolution.
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Re: Resealed figure discovery debate - G.Kurtz Palitoy VC Jawa.

Postby edd_jedi » Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:05 am

Look what just popped up on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121821973255

Of course the idiots at AFA have graded it as a "round corners proof card" but it's actually an unused production cardback.

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Re: Resealed figure discovery debate - G.Kurtz Palitoy VC Jawa.

Postby mr_palitoy » Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:38 pm

edd_jedi wrote:Look what just popped up on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121821973255

Of course the idiots at AFA have graded it as a "round corners proof card" but it's actually an unused production cardback.


Nice price. I wonder if Toni will be tempted to try and shift some of his on the quiet...

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Re: Resealed figure discovery debate - G.Kurtz Palitoy VC Jawa.

Postby _Lee_ » Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:34 pm

Funny thing is that the dickhead probably could have made more money not reaseling the fucking things :lol:
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Re: Resealed figure discovery debate - G.Kurtz Palitoy VC Jawa.

Postby Alas-1 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:09 pm

Will he eventually sell them cards off is the question?

He'll confirm his guilt but he's got away with it so far?!

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Re: Resealed figure discovery debate - G.Kurtz Palitoy VC Jawa.

Postby jedisearcher » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:03 am

I'd be pretty surprised if the stuff still exists. Surely there's a good chance that the whole lot ended up in the tip, particularly if he panicked when the whole sorry situation blew up. I vaguely remember Jason Joiner saying a dealer had been offered some cardbacks though so perhaps it wasn't destroyed.
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Re: Resealed figure discovery debate - G.Kurtz Palitoy VC Jawa.

Postby edd_jedi » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:18 am

There's no way he would have destroyed them, I bet he has thousands still and knows exactly how much they're worth.


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