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Why was Grand Moff Tarkin excluded from the original run?

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Why was Grand Moff Tarkin excluded from the original run?

Postby Jedi Master 1 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 7:39 pm

When the original Star Wars figures were released, why did they never make a Grand Moff Tarkin played by Peter Cushing? It's a question that's always puzzled me over the years. Does anyone know why Kenner never made an action figure of him? He did play a larger part than some characters Kenner released but had a smaller part and less important than him.

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Re: Why was Grand Moff Tarkin excluded from the original run?

Postby MarkG » Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:12 pm

It may be possible he never gave permission to be immortalised in plastic. Same way the Tonnika twins have never had figures made of them too.
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Re: Why was Grand Moff Tarkin excluded from the original run?

Postby Frunkstar » Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:13 pm

Think from what I have heard that MarkG is spot on, Cushing did not want a figure made of himself - stupid if you ask me, another small Cushing fact for you - after the first scene he was in traten carpet slippers as his boots were uncomfortable :lol:
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Re: Why was Grand Moff Tarkin excluded from the original run?

Postby palitoyjunky » Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:17 pm

Yeh I too heard Cushing didn't want his likeness used, I guess if he did there would have been no Death Squad Commander :?
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Re: Why was Grand Moff Tarkin excluded from the original run?

Postby theforceuk » Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:36 pm

I'm surprised at this, as I thought Lucas had all the rights to merchandise and the actors didn't have a say whether their characters were used or not. Very interesting. :)
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Re: Why was Grand Moff Tarkin excluded from the original run?

Postby Mr. Bob A. Feet » Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:36 pm

Well there's a difference between up and coming actors and established actors like Cushing and I'm sure this was probably a factor and as I've heard Carrie say plenty of times she only has to look in a mirror and she has to send George a cheque!

But yeah would have been nice to have more important players immortalised and not ones where you blink and you miss em!...
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Re: Why was Grand Moff Tarkin excluded from the original run?

Postby Robstyley » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:33 am

I didn't know that either. There was an old wives tale going about that it was because the figure would have been boring, children would'nt want to play with an old geezer in a grey suit? But the same could be said of Death Squad dude, bit boring and Obi-Wan is an old geezer so who knows!? I was more miffed they never made an Imp spy Mos Eisley long snout bloke.

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Re: Why was Grand Moff Tarkin excluded from the original run?

Postby theforceuk » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:55 am

Robstyley wrote:I didn't know that either. There was an old wives tale going about that it was because the figure would have been boring, children would'nt want to play with an old geezer in a grey suit? But the same could be said of Death Squad dude, bit boring and Obi-Wan is an old geezer so who knows!? I was more miffed they never made an Imp spy Mos Eisley long snout bloke.


Yeah the only thing I would say is OB1 and DSC have important roles in action sequences I suppose, so it does make sense and with the POTF line released with Imperial Dignitary it makes sense that Peter Cushing had some sort of special deal/request or whatever.
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Re: Why was Grand Moff Tarkin excluded from the original run?

Postby Pomse2001 » Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:30 am

I have heard the same, cushing did not want figures made of him :(

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Re: Why was Grand Moff Tarkin excluded from the original run?

Postby edd_jedi » Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:38 am

I used to love the playground rumours of non-existing figures that pre-internet you couldn't prove. I remember one kid claimed he had an 'American version' Luke Bespin with removable hand! :lol: And another was adamant my Luke X-Wing was Wedge and he had a blonde one at home (thinking the visor was black hair)

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Re: Why was Grand Moff Tarkin excluded from the original run?

Postby ZippyNL » Sat Jun 13, 2015 3:36 pm

We had a kid like that at our school, swore blind he had a remote controlled AT-AT - now that would hve been cool. I also thought LXW's visor was hair at first.

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Re: Why was Grand Moff Tarkin excluded from the original run?

Postby Gorneesh » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:28 pm

Frunkstar wrote:another small Cushing fact for you - after the first scene he was in traten carpet slippers as his boots were uncomfortable :lol:

I love the idea of Grand Moff Tarkin shuffling around the Death Star in slippers :lol:
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Re: Why was Grand Moff Tarkin excluded from the original run?

Postby SOJ » Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:09 pm

If they had of made him he would have been bordering on Madine territory for most boring figure. No way he'd be winning figure of the year on the forum.
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Re: Why was Grand Moff Tarkin excluded from the original run?

Postby Sompeetalay » Sat Jun 13, 2015 11:59 pm

I think this had more to do with Tarkin's death and the fact that he never used a blaster in the movie. And Kenner had plans to release him if the line had continued.

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Re: Why was Grand Moff Tarkin excluded from the original run?

Postby Dannywhiteley » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:01 am

Loved the old playground tales. American Luke Bespin is one I remember. Usually claimed to have been purchased by a rich fat kit on a summer holiday spent in florida. Tellingly he never managed to get it into school to prove its existence.


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