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Postby edd_jedi » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:47 pm

Interesting bit of news I just saw on Rebel Scum, the guy who has been sitting on everyone's money for 10 years for a book that is never going to be released has started his own grading company!

http://collectorarchive.com

Having a reputation that involves not completing things, never updating customers and generally leaving communication to other people isn't a great start to a new company. And good luck getting your Saga Museum books :lol:

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Postby theforceuk » Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:03 pm

Interesting I'm suprised it's taken this long for another one to start up in America considering how popular and how pathetically run AFA is. :)
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Postby edd_jedi » Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:44 pm

theforceuk wrote:and how pathetically run AFA is. :)


Don't worry based on the book he will give them a real good run for their money :)

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Postby SAVORY100 » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:11 pm

I maybe wrong, but seem to recollect a Facebook thread a month or two ago about these guys and a few of the more notable (on Facebook at least) collectors had already tried and tested and were happy with results. I imagine Ross Barr will know more on who and how good etc the results were... I think it was display items that were actually encased too.
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Postby edd_jedi » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:18 pm

There was a thread on Facebook a few days ago full of people slating them for giving a DT sabre with pieces missing an 80 grade. I only found out who was behind this new outfit today though. One of the other "officers" (got to laugh at anybody who takes themselves so seriously) is a big toy dealer, raising the question of vested interest.

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Postby Ross_Barr » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:02 pm

Lots of information about CAS in this thread in the 12 back group, including more info on Todd DeMartino, one of the equity owners of CAS - the guy that had issues with book pre-orders. Lots of positive info too that I don't have the time to repeat. https://www.facebook.com/groups/StarWar ... 123467380/

I have no vested interest in the company other than seeing a competitor to AFA in the U.S., but I do note they have a lot of very well respected members of the community on their board of advisors, including Bill Wills and Stephane Faucourt: http://collectorarchive.com/boardofadvisors/

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Postby edd_jedi » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:05 pm

Agree competition to AFA is a good thing. I just don't think Todd appreciates the damage to his reputation this book has done, I certainly wouldn't trust him with any of my money. Maybe acting as a silent partner would have been better, or heaven forbid finally own up to his massive cock up over the book!

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Postby indianawars » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:16 pm

Just what the collecting world needed... another bunch of so called know-it-all toy experts :roll:

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Postby Ross_Barr » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:36 pm

edd_jedi wrote:Agree competition to AFA is a good thing. I just don't think Todd appreciates the damage to his reputation this book has done, I certainly wouldn't trust him with any of my money. Maybe acting as a silent partner would have been better, or heaven forbid finally own up to his massive cock up over the book!


I've met the real muscle behind the operation - Ken Black - several times in his facility in Quakertown, Pennsylvania, and he is a really good guy that seems to want to run the business the right way - for the benefit and mindful of the concerns of collectors. He and Todd are both aware of the stain that Todd's book issues bring to the business, but seem confident it shouldn't be relevant to what Ken (with Todd in tow) is providing. We shall see.

I have given them two submissions so far, and I was extremely pleased with how they turned out.

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Postby edd_jedi » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:41 pm

I'm all for giving people a second chance, maybe it's time for Todd to make a public apology. I'm not accusing him of being a thief, from what I've read he has refunded everyone who has requested a refund, but I don't have a habit of trusting people who run away from problems and deal with things by disappearing. I hope for Ken's sake he does.

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Postby GalenErso » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:55 am

I've met Ken and Todd personally and both are slimy. Todd's book issue & Revenge of the Jedi box flat as mentioned below and Ken's auction house issue don't help their reputation. My concern is that there are serious players in the SW collecting realm on the board or employed by CAS. With that said, it's hard to believe that certain submissions wouldn't get "favorable" gradings based on these close friendships. There was a post on FB over the weekend where such a group got together of these elite collectors, all of which who are "pals of the program".

To be fair, I overheard someone at Celebration 2017 saying that they've called Chad at AFA to dispute the grade they were to receive and got the rating bumped from a 80+ to an 85 as they have a certain AFA member status. With that said, what's to say it hasn't or won't happen at CAS.

Below is a post in RebelScum that speaks for itself. I don't disagree that there should be competition for AFA, but I'm 100% sure Todd Demartino and Ken Black shouldn't be the ones leading an organization to do just that. I'll stick to AFA until those two and their new counsel move along.
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Posted by Hoth_My_Fav in RebelScum

CAS grading company and Ken Black

I will keep it short and simple-

The hobby has endured many scandals, frauds and shenanigans through out the years. If one simply digs deep into the rich archives of Rebel Scum, many of these scams, frauds and other black spots, whether large or small can be found. Due to the hard work and diligence of the community, when something comes up, when there is something fishy, when something is off, when someone is misleading, the community comes together to warn others, to get answers and to protect the community from any possible dangers. In this manner, things can be clarified and fixed and the safety of collectors can be assured.

As time marches forward, events like these are often forgotten or aren't talked about because old members move on, new members come in and aren't aware of these dark times. Sometimes a few new members such as myself, have learned through research about some of these dark times because they are documented here on Rebel Scum.

One thing I have greatly enjoyed doing is compiling price data from auction houses on select SW vintage toys and related items. In my travels, I like to check around what the various auction houses are offering and whats coming up. The more I do this in my spare time, the more you become familiar with whos running what. As I was going over where I collect my prices from, it was brought to my attention that one of the principles involved in the CAS grading agencies is Ken Black, who is the COO of CAS. I remember seeing Ken Black's name and him being involved with Sellersville Auction.

If you go online and google Ken Black and his Sellersville Auction, there are a LOT of allegations that do not paint Ken Black in a good light and throw up a lot of caution signs. All over the Internet there are countless complaints about his services, alleging fraud and non payment. More recently, there is the issue regarding bankruptcy, that Ken Black is involved in a Chapter 13 personal bankruptcy case that will be filed soon. A recent news article talks about many recent lawsuits filed in courts alleging non payment and the bankruptcy filing.

Find that article here http://www.mcall.com/news/watchdog/m...27-column.html

When you read that article, I dont know why, at all, you would want to buy a single graded CAS item or even send in your vintage toy to them. Furthermore, why has Todd DeMartino gone into business with someone who brings a less than favorable light to the grading agency? There are other individuals, known to the collecting community that serve as advisors to CAS and my question to them is: are they aware of what is going on with Ken Black and his Sellersville Auction? Are they not bothered by what is going on with with Mr Black and that perhaps their reputations might be affected by what happens with Ken Black?

Finally, in regards to Todd, didnt he stir up some bad feelings (and yes I know this happened years ago and was perhaps forgiven by some) but most newer hobbyists are probably not aware of this but he was called on the carpet for his selling tactic on a Revenge of The Jedi box flat. Had it not been brought up by the community, that issue would not have been corrected. Here is the thread in regards to Todd and how he approached the situation, which it seems, if fellow members had not persuaded him, he would have left a less than accurate description of what he was selling and not being up front. One has to wonder if he did this in the past, how will he implement a system that allows for transparent accurately graded items.

here is the link to that thread on Rebel Scum

http://forum.rebelscum.com/showthrea...g+revenge+flat

What you all decide to do in the end is up to you but I did find all these things interesting and decided it be better to share what I knew with the community in case others are not aware of what is going on and avoid anyone any heartache.

I plan on following all court filings and documents in detail and I am interested in seeing how much Ken Black owes, who he owes and how much the court decides that he is to pay out to those that are allegedly owed.

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Postby Paullaura » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:23 pm

I paid the idiot for the book right in the beginning. Never been able to get my money back.

Id like to meet him one day. Asswipe. :evil:

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Postby theforceuk » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:01 pm

You’ve got to be mad sending your stuff to a guy that has done this.
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Postby Cardbackkid » Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:04 am

GalenErso wrote:I've met Ken and Todd personally and both are slimy. Todd's book issue & Revenge of the Jedi box flat as mentioned below and Ken's auction house issue don't help their reputation. My concern is that there are serious players in the SW collecting realm on the board or employed by CAS. With that said, it's hard to believe that certain submissions wouldn't get "favorable" gradings based on these close friendships. There was a post on FB over the weekend where such a group got together of these elite collectors, all of which who are "pals of the program".

To be fair, I overheard someone at Celebration 2017 saying that they've called Chad at AFA to dispute the grade they were to receive and got the rating bumped from a 80+ to an 85 as they have a certain AFA member status. With that said, what's to say it hasn't or won't happen at CAS.

Below is a post in RebelScum that speaks for itself. I don't disagree that there should be competition for AFA, but I'm 100% sure Todd Demartino and Ken Black shouldn't be the ones leading an organization to do just that. I'll stick to AFA until those two and their new counsel move along.
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Posted by Hoth_My_Fav in RebelScum

CAS grading company and Ken Black

I will keep it short and simple-

The hobby has endured many scandals, frauds and shenanigans through out the years. If one simply digs deep into the rich archives of Rebel Scum, many of these scams, frauds and other black spots, whether large or small can be found. Due to the hard work and diligence of the community, when something comes up, when there is something fishy, when something is off, when someone is misleading, the community comes together to warn others, to get answers and to protect the community from any possible dangers. In this manner, things can be clarified and fixed and the safety of collectors can be assured.

As time marches forward, events like these are often forgotten or aren't talked about because old members move on, new members come in and aren't aware of these dark times. Sometimes a few new members such as myself, have learned through research about some of these dark times because they are documented here on Rebel Scum.

One thing I have greatly enjoyed doing is compiling price data from auction houses on select SW vintage toys and related items. In my travels, I like to check around what the various auction houses are offering and whats coming up. The more I do this in my spare time, the more you become familiar with whos running what. As I was going over where I collect my prices from, it was brought to my attention that one of the principles involved in the CAS grading agencies is Ken Black, who is the COO of CAS. I remember seeing Ken Black's name and him being involved with Sellersville Auction.

If you go online and google Ken Black and his Sellersville Auction, there are a LOT of allegations that do not paint Ken Black in a good light and throw up a lot of caution signs. All over the Internet there are countless complaints about his services, alleging fraud and non payment. More recently, there is the issue regarding bankruptcy, that Ken Black is involved in a Chapter 13 personal bankruptcy case that will be filed soon. A recent news article talks about many recent lawsuits filed in courts alleging non payment and the bankruptcy filing.

Find that article here http://www.mcall.com/news/watchdog/m...27-column.html

When you read that article, I dont know why, at all, you would want to buy a single graded CAS item or even send in your vintage toy to them. Furthermore, why has Todd DeMartino gone into business with someone who brings a less than favorable light to the grading agency? There are other individuals, known to the collecting community that serve as advisors to CAS and my question to them is: are they aware of what is going on with Ken Black and his Sellersville Auction? Are they not bothered by what is going on with with Mr Black and that perhaps their reputations might be affected by what happens with Ken Black?

Finally, in regards to Todd, didnt he stir up some bad feelings (and yes I know this happened years ago and was perhaps forgiven by some) but most newer hobbyists are probably not aware of this but he was called on the carpet for his selling tactic on a Revenge of The Jedi box flat. Had it not been brought up by the community, that issue would not have been corrected. Here is the thread in regards to Todd and how he approached the situation, which it seems, if fellow members had not persuaded him, he would have left a less than accurate description of what he was selling and not being up front. One has to wonder if he did this in the past, how will he implement a system that allows for transparent accurately graded items.

here is the link to that thread on Rebel Scum

http://forum.rebelscum.com/showthrea...g+revenge+flat

What you all decide to do in the end is up to you but I did find all these things interesting and decided it be better to share what I knew with the community in case others are not aware of what is going on and avoid anyone any heartache.

I plan on following all court filings and documents in detail and I am interested in seeing how much Ken Black owes, who he owes and how much the court decides that he is to pay out to those that are allegedly owed.



Very interesting read thanks for posting this

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Postby spoons » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:36 pm

No doubt there's Ken and Todd's have questionable pasts but Hoth my Fav is also a bit shady judging by the RS threads - from memory he defaulted on magazine subscriptions. Do you have any connection with him Galen erso as this is quite an odd first post?
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