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Definitive Debut Card List?

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Definitive Debut Card List?

Postby Cazza » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:30 pm

Has anyone ever produced a definitive debut card list? Interested in Palitoy and Kenner.
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Re: Definitive Debut Card List?

Postby Robstyley » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:22 pm

This would interest me also. I'm sure I read somewhere that for some figures it is in dispute or not known whether they first appeared on A or B or C cards etc. I think there was also a thread somewhere which mentioned that some earlier figures are not known to exist on later cards? Surely Jasons matrix gives some of this info on the Palitoy side.

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Re: Definitive Debut Card List?

Postby MarkG » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:31 pm

I would think between the 2 Mr Smiths... Gary & Jason the Palitoy side of things is pretty much sewn up.

As for Kenner... the Kellerman matrix over on RS would be the best bet... although it doesn't look like it's been updated for a fair few years now.
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Re: Definitive Debut Card List?

Postby theforceuk » Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:18 pm

Best I've seen for Kenner is this one.

http://www.12back.com/features/package/package.php3

It mentioned that Yoda first appeared on the 32B, so I've always assumed that all the others appeared first on the A backs. Then you have the Canadian versions which certain figures appear on the previous release, but they are not added to the back, Prune Face for example on a Canadian 65 back.

For me a true Kenner debut is when the figure is on the back for the first time, but that's just me.
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Re: Definitive Debut Card List?

Postby mr_palitoy » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:30 am

MarkG wrote:I would think between the 2 Mr Smiths... Gary & Jason the Palitoy side of things is pretty much sewn up.

As for Kenner... the Kellerman matrix over on RS would be the best bet... although it doesn't look like it's been updated for a fair few years now.


You can see the debut cards for palitoy on my matrix:-

http://www.freewebs.com/mrpalitoy/

The one you will not find is Dengar 41 back as it is really rare (a couple of known examples). So 45a is the next card after that.

Zuckuss also didnt come on a proper 45b, but used a german or clipper card with a sticker on the back. The 45c is the first non stickered release for that.

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