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Re: Fake Leia Pistol

Postby Jez » Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:41 pm

Wow these are getting crazy. That fake James was holding looking very good indeed.
Sad times.

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Re: Fake Leia Pistol

Postby Pomse2001 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:10 am

Jez wrote:Wow these are getting crazy. That fake James was holding looking very good indeed.
Sad times.


Yes very sad times, I am so tired of all this repro :(

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Re: Fake Leia Pistol

Postby TheJabbaWookie » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:04 pm

Look, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this our little friend being knowingly or unwittingly mis-sold on eBay? It certainly doesn't look like the v3. They've got a couple of these on there.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/152697399122
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Re: Fake Leia Pistol

Postby subzero » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:09 pm

I think that might be an original, these latest fakes have a square back end but the one in that listing looks like it's got the rounded back end.

But the pic is a little blurry so hard to 100% tell.
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Re: Fake Leia Pistol

Postby TheJabbaWookie » Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:05 pm

I think AJ said and it's on the TIG site that there's a modified v6 repro with a rounded end. I'd be interested in his thoughts.

These blasters look to uniform to me to be v2 or v3 and the site on top of the barrel looks different. And it's not the v1 because it's missing the vertical line and it's not v4 which is the rougher Sculpt.
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Re: Fake Leia Pistol

Postby subzero » Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:25 pm

TheJabbaWookie wrote:I think AJ said and it's on the TIG site that there's a modified v6 repro with a rounded end. I'd be interested in his thoughts.

These blasters look to uniform to me to be v2 or v3 and the site on top of the barrel looks different. And it's not the v1 because it's missing the vertical line and it's not v4 which is the rougher Sculpt.


Doh!.. forgot about the modified version, these repro's are god damn annoying :evil:

Iv'e often wondered does anyone ever get the feeling the TIG site ( apart from being both fantastic & necessary for collectors ), is being used as a guide also for the repro manufacturers?, I mean when you think about it's basically a blueprint site for which tiny details in the weapons for them to copy. The site practically tells them in detail what they're doing wrong when a new repro comes out and then they adjust their design and make it more perfect.
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Re: Fake Leia Pistol

Postby TheJabbaWookie » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:13 pm

Pretty certain it's the same one that joggers78 is currently selling :evil:
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Re: Fake Leia Pistol

Postby subzero » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:26 am

Yeah it looks too clean lined and smooth, it doesn't have that 'charm' to it, no tiny bits of imperfections and lumpiness in the plastic, if you know what I mean!
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Re: Fake Leia Pistol

Postby poncho » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:55 am

im glad im not starting out. what a mine field.....

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Re: Fake Leia Pistol

Postby aussiejames » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:46 am

Yes they are the 'modified back end fakes'
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Re: Fake Leia Pistol

Postby Armand78 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:28 pm

what is the tell then? i.e. how do we identify the new modified end blaster from an original? I'm still not 100% clear on this...I've seen pictures on tig but could do with an explanation.

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Re: Fake Leia Pistol

Postby TheJabbaWookie » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:14 pm

Armand78 wrote:what is the tell then? i.e. how do we identify the new modified end blaster from an original? I'm still not 100% clear on this...I've seen pictures on tig but could do with an explanation.

I'd forget about the butt and concentrate on the side profile. On the diagram below are the 4 known variants on the left and the new Repro on the right.

In my opinion you can tell straight away from looking at it that it is Repro because it looks too smooth and the barrel is too symmetrical (5). All the other repros have much more texture and the barrel varies in width at different points along it.

However, if that is too hard to see then I have marked up based on TIGs documentation the telltale signs of the other 4 blasters.

- V1 can be identified by the vertical line highlighted (1).
- V2: the site highlighted is much more squared off (2a) on this version than the Repro. In addition you can see that there is a line running all the way along the barrel (2b).
- v3: again the site is much more squared off than the Repro (3a). In addition this variant has two vertical notches on the barrel (3b)
- v4: this is the Ledy variant, is much rarer, and can be identified by the very rough sculpt to the design.

Hopefully this will help you identify the new Repro Blaster variant.
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Re: Fake Leia Pistol

Postby subzero » Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:28 pm

Good guide, looking at that now compared to the other 4 the differences are so obvious, and you can even see the side of the hammer at the back is completely wrong too with it's shape and position.

Sad part is people are now starting to sell these on as genuine and they're getting high bids, like the guy in the ebay link above!
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Re: Fake Leia Pistol

Postby TheJabbaWookie » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:22 pm

subzero wrote:Sad part is people are now starting to sell these on as genuine and they're getting high bids, like the guy in the ebay link above!


I sent him the message below, to which he replied that he was going to end the listing. His other one sold for £35. I can only hope he'll cancel and refund after the listing ends otherwise there'll be an annoyed and disappointed collector somewhere down the line.
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Re: Fake Leia Pistol

Postby subzero » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:29 pm

We're both on the case with that one, received this one not long back with a more detailed answer.

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And yes lets just hope he does actually cancel the sales, because there's no way to find out who the buyers are...
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