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Re: Near Perfect Repros

Postby Robstyley » Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:12 pm

TheJabbaWookie wrote:
aussiejames wrote:Nick the injection point (not EPM- which are ejector pin marks) on the Imperial blasters is on the back of the scope- unlike any other known Imperial blaster. So like the repro Jawa blaster having it on the front of the barrel- these are dead giveaways.


Rob you mention these blasters:
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to me those are all real, what am I missing??


Yes, I agree with James. It looks like you've got two blue version 4 blasters; 3 blue black version 4 blasters and possibly 1 version 5 blaster with a similar pattern on the handle to the new batch of repros were discussing. This could be a good day for you :D


No, I promise you these are 100% repro. This is the problem and goes back to the original post, they are very good copies and may look genuine in a photo but in hand and compared to a real one they are totally fake. They're too sharp, they look brand new and the plastic/finish is completely wrong. Subzero, I read this thread, went into my bag of repros, took out all the Imp blasters, photographed them and posted. It's really not rocket science, you take a real one or look at the one in your Stormy Moc and compare. I'll try and take some better macro photos and do something on photoshop to show what I mean.

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Re: Near Perfect Repros

Postby subzero » Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:53 pm

ScruffyLookingNH wrote:Well now, isn't that a coincidence. It gets reported here and all of a sudden.....he ends the listing. We got a lurker in our midst, I reckon. Maybe coincidence, but I doubt it.


Hmm the plot definitely thickens....
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Re: Near Perfect Repros

Postby subzero » Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:57 pm

Just been listed again, not relisted but a whole new listing, everyone get on the reporting...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8-x-Vintage-S ... SwGhZZr64n

If this one disappears too then i'd say we def have this guy lurking on this forum :roll:
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Re: Near Perfect Repros

Postby ChallengerFox » Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:15 pm

Rob that would be good if you could do some side by side comparisons because the ones in that picture look real to me too, thanks

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Re: Near Perfect Repros

Postby Pomse2001 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:45 pm

Robstyley wrote:
TheJabbaWookie wrote:
aussiejames wrote:Nick the injection point (not EPM- which are ejector pin marks) on the Imperial blasters is on the back of the scope- unlike any other known Imperial blaster. So like the repro Jawa blaster having it on the front of the barrel- these are dead giveaways.


Rob you mention these blasters:
Image
to me those are all real, what am I missing??


Yes, I agree with James. It looks like you've got two blue version 4 blasters; 3 blue black version 4 blasters and possibly 1 version 5 blaster with a similar pattern on the handle to the new batch of repros were discussing. This could be a good day for you :D


No, I promise you these are 100% repro. This is the problem and goes back to the original post, they are very good copies and may look genuine in a photo but in hand and compared to a real one they are totally fake. They're too sharp, they look brand new and the plastic/finish is completely wrong. Subzero, I read this thread, went into my bag of repros, took out all the Imp blasters, photographed them and posted. It's really not rocket science, you take a real one or look at the one in your Stormy Moc and compare. I'll try and take some better macro photos and do something on photoshop to show what I mean.


Thanks for the warning, can you compare it on a picture with the original ones and point out the difference so we know what to look for ? :wink:

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Re: Near Perfect Repros

Postby Jimi Woolley » Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:35 pm

Robstyley wrote:They're not fooling me. Yes they are close in many ways but they are also all wrong. The scope's too thick, the magazines the wrong shape, the protrusion at the very back is the wrong shape and the whole sculpt is too sharp. And the colour is wrong. These kind of fairly accurate Imp blasters have been around for years, some of these below were sold to me as long as 9 years ago. I still don't think anyone has made good enough repros to fool a reasonably experienced collector.

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There is nothing wrong with these blasters. V4's and one V5 which is exclusive to Taiwan Fetts.

When we've held the Jabba's Court/Imperial Gunnery Repro Clinic people have often bought in V5's as they do look and feel very different to most other Imperial Blasters. Unbelievably clean lines. Take a look at a TW Fett MOC (ROTJ) and you'll see this blaster.

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Re: Near Perfect Repros

Postby TheJabbaWookie » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:50 pm

Robstyley wrote:No, I promise you these are 100% repro. This is the problem and goes back to the original post, they are very good copies and may look genuine in a photo but in hand and compared to a real one they are totally fake. They're too sharp, they look brand new and the plastic/finish is completely wrong. Subzero, I read this thread, went into my bag of repros, took out all the Imp blasters, photographed them and posted. It's really not rocket science, you take a real one or look at the one in your Stormy Moc and compare. I'll try and take some better macro photos and do something on photoshop to show what I mean.


Wow Rob. Do they float or sink? Have you got an original v4 and v5 you can lay these side by side and post a photo, because they're way more convincing than this latest batch of repros if they are fake. I've not come across a Repro like this before.

The v4 is very common, has very sharp features and the blue ones always look more like a Repro than the other blasters I've felt and handled. But they are real (the ones I have anyway).
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Re: Near Perfect Repros

Postby Pantzman » Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:44 am

I'd really like to get some of these in hand to study up close but a few of us have discussed this 'lot' in our study group and we all think they are fine.
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Re: Near Perfect Repros

Postby Pomse2001 » Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:44 am

I am confused, are they fake or vintage ? :?

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Re: Near Perfect Repros

Postby Pantzman » Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:55 am

Can we have a pic of the rear of the barrel? if the injection point is there they are fake.

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Re: Near Perfect Repros

Postby Robstyley » Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:01 pm

Ok, I don't want to confuse anyone or post misinformation. I have always thought these are repro having compared them to ones I know are genuine. As I said I've had some of them a long while. I'll have another look at it and if I'm mistaken I'll admit to it.. and also be quite chuffed. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on the V5 Jimi, you may be right. I will take some photos to try and explain why I think they're repro, it's not about the version, it's about the finish/plastic. I'm very busy with work and kids etc but I'll do it as soon as I can.
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Re: Near Perfect Repros

Postby yoda » Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:24 pm

This is starting to get exciting almost like a loft find!
Wouldn't it be great if it turned out the blasters are all original :)
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Re: Near Perfect Repros

Postby tobedesu » Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:36 pm

I don't know if its useful, but these are all my childhood blasters.
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Re: Near Perfect Repros

Postby TheJabbaWookie » Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:53 pm

Looks like you have two of the v4s up for debate there, top right and second down on the left. And you can see particularly with the top right they do look a bit more Repro like, but that's the v4 for you. Still pretty sure Rob's are all ship shape.
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Re: Near Perfect Repros

Postby Robstyley » Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:26 pm

I've just tried taking some more close up photos of one of the blue/black Imp blasters I posted but it's not working, I can't get them sharp enough that close. I think what's possibly happened is a long time ago I've wrongly identified the V4 as a repro :oops: .There's no other ones (V4's) in my loose figure set so I think every time one's come my way it's gone in the repro bag. The fact a few people think they're genuine I suppose they must be. They just look so new, shiny and black I was convinced they were fake. Oh well, you live and learn :wink:


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