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The beginning of the end?

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Re: The beginning of the end?

Postby subzero » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:58 am

maxf wrote:I don't see it as the beginning of the end at all! A stable market is a good thing


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Re: The beginning of the end?

Postby mumbo » Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:18 pm

lejackal wrote:
Grant_C wrote:I guess we'll see next week after the new Luke Skywalker trailer.

Personally, I don't see any downturn. I see pencil case shop displays going for £5000 and 77 Back ROTJ Luke Jedis being discussed at £250 as if its normal conversation. Loose Leia's at £100+, I think we may have seeing a slowing of a serge in process, but guess we'll see.

Fortunately the £250 Luke and the £390 one that made it look cheap were not the norm from looking at other sales.
Leias are still suffering flavour of the month syndrome but I keep seeing reasonably priced items hanging around, overpriced not moving at all and eBay auctions offering real value compared to the start of the year.

Maybe I'm just hoping for a few more bargains


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Re: The beginning of the end?

Postby lejackal » Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:43 pm

kieatky wrote:Bring back the 1990's, where you could attend any local boot sale/school fair and get a bag full of figures for 10p each. Now that was sensible pricing :D

Nice to see you posting again mate

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Re: The beginning of the end?

Postby TheJabbaWookie » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:29 pm

If you’re looking very short term there was a major drop off on ebay over summer (not unusual) but there has been no real pick up since. Prices had hit a peak in May when a high graded AFA Princess Leia Organa sold for £800 plus.
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Re: The beginning of the end?

Postby lejackal » Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:09 pm

maxf wrote:I don't see it as the beginning of the end at all! A stable market is a good thing - rapid price rises and crazy bidders for relatively common items, while fun to look at, don't do us any favours as collectors. We are probably going into a phase of stability - some of the crazy prices are back down to earth, but that's no bad thing!

Not at all, no market can rise indefinitely, collector or otherwise. I for one will be thrilled at a bit of stability

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Re: The beginning of the end?

Postby kieatky » Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:26 pm

lejackal wrote:
kieatky wrote:Bring back the 1990's, where you could attend any local boot sale/school fair and get a bag full of figures for 10p each. Now that was sensible pricing :D

Nice to see you posting again mate


Thanks, I've been away for far too long, hopefully the things that kept me away have all been sorted now so happy days. Seams like a lot has changed since I was last here though, doesn't appear to be that many items in the 'for sale' section any more? I've looked on some facebook groups but decided they weren't for me as soon as I read that people are now thinking 'Toy Toni's' are ok :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Re: The beginning of the end?

Postby lejackal » Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:50 pm

kieatky wrote:
lejackal wrote:
kieatky wrote:Bring back the 1990's, where you could attend any local boot sale/school fair and get a bag full of figures for 10p each. Now that was sensible pricing :D

Nice to see you posting again mate


Thanks, I've been away for far too long, hopefully the things that kept me away have all been sorted now so happy days. Seams like a lot has changed since I was last here though, doesn't appear to be that many items in the 'for sale' section any more? I've looked on some facebook groups but decided they weren't for me as soon as I read that people are now thinking 'Toy Toni's' are ok :shock: :shock: :shock:

Yeah, things have changed a bit since we last chatted. Forum sales are slow but still there. TT sales I think would be fine at a sensible price but people are auctioning them and they are getting bid up to nearly legit MOC prices.
Jabbas is actually a decent group but as I'm sure you know eBay has the best bargains

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Re: The beginning of the end?

Postby _Lee_ » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:22 pm

Looks that way, but things will climb again soon. They always do and it will get to tougher. I myself feel estranged from the hobby now. Its changed so much, and it seems as though the innocence of it is slowly disappearing. Gone are the days of flicking through m and c mart and seeing what's new or meeting people/dealers to see what they have.

I myself will be bowing out of collecting soon. My guitar playing/recording is taking more of a front seat now and I have nowhere near as much passion for SW as I used to ( plus Mesa Boogie amps are expensive :lol: ). I'm going to sell a lot of stuff as I've thought about things a lot lately. I'll be keeping a few pieces but I'm out of the game for good now. I haven't felt this positive about leaving the hobby for a long time. Things happened this year that made me re-think my life totally. Nearly losing my wife to meningitis was the main reason and also that life is there to live and to do what you want to do right when you want to.
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Re: The beginning of the end?

Postby maxf » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:48 am

_Lee_ wrote:Nearly losing my wife to meningitis was the main reason and also that life is there to live and to do what you want to do right when you want to.


Bloody hell mate - that's rough! Glad she came through and hope she's 100% now. I don't blame you letting that focus your mind.
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Re: The beginning of the end?

Postby Wreck-It Ralph » Sat Nov 04, 2017 2:04 pm

mr_palitoy wrote:I think the market is good as long as Disney are churning out new content.

The thing that will bring on the big decline in vintage prices will be when the collectors starting passing on.

If you go to the likes of Barry Potter, its stuffed full of corgi/matchbox cars and trains from the 50s/60s and not many buyers. That will be Star Wars in 20-30 years time.

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I don't think you can compare Corgi and Trains to Star Wars that's like comparing Austin to Ferrari, if Austin prices drop that doesn't mean Ferrari prices will also drop! Star Wars is a Global Phenomenon backed by Disney and big part of Pop Culture both now and in the future. I think prices will continue to rise!
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Re: The beginning of the end?

Postby Wreck-It Ralph » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:17 pm

_Lee_ wrote:Looks that way, but things will climb again soon. They always do and it will get to tougher. I myself feel estranged from the hobby now. Its changed so much, and it seems as though the innocence of it is slowly disappearing. Gone are the days of flicking through m and c mart and seeing what's new or meeting people/dealers to see what they have.

I myself will be bowing out of collecting soon. My guitar playing/recording is taking more of a front seat now and I have nowhere near as much passion for SW as I used to ( plus Mesa Boogie amps are expensive :lol: ). I'm going to sell a lot of stuff as I've thought about things a lot lately. I'll be keeping a few pieces but I'm out of the game for good now. I haven't felt this positive about leaving the hobby for a long time. Things happened this year that made me re-think my life totally. Nearly losing my wife to meningitis was the main reason and also that life is there to live and to do what you want to do right when you want to.


Sounds like you have had a really tough time. I lost my Dad to Cancer this year and for a while I contemplated selling my collection but after a few months out of the hobby I have decided to return as I missed it. Undoubtedly you will have given selling your collection a lot of thought but sometimes it is worth asking yourself how you will feel when it's gone!
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Re: The beginning of the end?

Postby Pomse2001 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:25 am

I see no downturn in prices :?

But I know some collectors only buy in the winter, spring and Autumn and then they do not collect star wars in the summer. They will more be out in the sun and on vacation. Maybe a lot of collectors do that so the prices will maybe go a little down in the summer :?

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Re: The beginning of the end?

Postby Wreck-It Ralph » Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:07 pm

A R2 D2 Prop sold at auction for 2.75 million dollars this year and people think VSW is on the way down. The VSW toy sales are just the tip of the iceberg there are some high net worth individuals ploughing serious money into high end Star Wars Collectibles can't see them doing that if they did not think it was a sound investment.
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Re: The beginning of the end?

Postby Pantzman » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:07 pm

I keep hearing collectors saying " I'm selling, I can't justify having so much money sitting on a shelf when it could be used for something more productive."
Cashing in the chips while the market is on such a crazy high does seem appealing... ***Hmmm, I'm sure ive said this on two other occasions and regretted it !***

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Re: The beginning of the end?

Postby Wreck-It Ralph » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:37 am

Some people are very Pessimistic about VSW collectibles (Bears) for these people VSW has reached it apex and Black Tuesday is looming. This should only be of any relevance to anyone if you are thinking of selling. Many active collectors would like prices to drop as it would enable them to buy more collectibles so if the Bears win and prices decline its not the end of the world as you can buy more stuff.

My personal experience at present is there does not seem to be much for sale so with a limited supply and increasing demand I know where I expect prices to go Bulls (2) Bears (1).
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