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Kenner ROTJ Moc rarity

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Re: Kenner ROTJ Moc rarity

Postby jared007 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:10 am

theforceuk wrote:The Emperor on a 77 a is not that easy to get hold off.


Going by the data in Star Wars Tracker over the last year, 77a is the most common for the Emperor - or did I misunderstand you?

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Re: Kenner ROTJ Moc rarity

Postby theforceuk » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:19 am

There’s no way he’s the most common 77 A. I wouldn’t even say it’s the most common example of him on a card either. Two of those examples on Star Wars tracker are 77 B Backs. Just because 77 A has been common over the last year doesn’t mean that example is the most common. I guess you did miss understand me if you think I’m saying they are rare, I’m just saying they are not as easy to get hold as you might think for the right price. You could say that about most vintage Star Wars I guess. :roll:

£300 for a Jedi Emperor, can’t be that common. :shock: :lol: The price for a 77 A is a lot more than a 77 B on Star Wars tracker.

Not sure I understand your point.
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Re: Kenner ROTJ Moc rarity

Postby jared007 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:55 am

theforceuk wrote:There’s no way he’s the most common 77 A. I wouldn’t even say it’s the most common example of him on a card either


If I look back several years, 77A is still the most common in terms of completed sales, by a long shot - that's what Vol(ume) 56 means. Below is graded and ungraded sales together. So I guess my point was I'd say a 77A is the easiest to get a hold of. I admit this is just Star Wars Tracker data, but I'd be surprised if the reality was vastly different.

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Re: Kenner ROTJ Moc rarity

Postby theforceuk » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:39 am

I still can’t believe it, I spent two years getting one for the right price, every time I tried to get hold of one they were drastically over priced or a 79 Back Trilogo or POTF. Does Star Wars tracker take into account that the same figure could get sold 5 times in the same year? All I said was is the Emperors not that easy to get hold, just my experience didn’t realise I was going to get cross examined. :lol:
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Re: Kenner ROTJ Moc rarity

Postby jared007 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:12 pm

theforceuk wrote:I still can’t believe it, I spent two years getting one for the right price, every time I tried to get hold of one they were drastically over priced or a 79 Back Trilogo or POTF. Does Star Wars tracker take into account that the same figure could get sold 5 times in the same year? All I said was is the Emperors not that easy to get hold, just my experience didn’t realise I was going to get cross examined. :lol:


You know what, we are probably both correct - just depends on our starting assumptions and criteria :) I've just done the same thing but only include sales from the UK (first go were global stats). Quite a different story over the last year if you were trying to get one locally. Does that fit your experience more?

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The Tracker will over-represent sales of the same item that churn through collections through time. But I've always seen the tracker as reporting market/sales activity together with *buying opportunites*. So from that perspective I've never really worried about it.
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Re: Kenner ROTJ Moc rarity

Postby theforceuk » Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:57 pm

I remember I did look at other options international search on eBay, even Facebook and other auctions, thing is for me if you have the money and are willing to pay over the odds then what Jedi card figure combination is hard to find? The thread is called Kenner ROTJ MOC rarity and the first thing that sprung to mind was the emperor on a 77 A Back was hard to get. The entire time I was looking, there was was on eBay USA for over £200 BIN Graded. I ended up getting one for £130 with the same grade, after a long wait.

My point being who thinks a Jedi Emperor is hard to get, no one but actually out of all the debut Jedi cards I have brought up until now he has been the hardest to get.

Have a look on eBay for one now there isn’t one I would buy.
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