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When did collecting become so aggressive?

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When did collecting become so aggressive?

Postby indianawars » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:34 pm

So I haven't been collecting for 7-8 months and thought that I might pick up where I left off. The truth is I was missing it.
I decided to focus on a few loose figure that I'm missing from my collecting and one of them is the Imperial Dignitary.

After searching for the last few days, I finally found a decent one. No paint chip on the noise which I thought would be nice. The guy has it up for £95, plus £4 postage but with 'make an offer.'
I thought that his asking price was a little bit on the high side as I don't remember this selling for such a high price. So I sent him an offer of £60 this morning. A few hours ago my offer was declined, which was fine, but it was the comment left that really annoyed me.

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"Bro don't insult me it's already been reduced it's mint and no paint scratches off nose! Check your knowledge on this figure."

So I checked the newly listed eBay items and found another one listed in the same condition at £70 with 'make an offer.'
So I sent an offer of £60. Half an hour later I received a counter offer of £65. Happy days! Unfortunately, no sooner had I logged into eBay to accept it did the seller remove that listing :( They left all their other listings up except for that one.

I'm now feeling like why did I ever both.

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Re: When did collecting become so aggressive?

Postby Michael Sith » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:09 pm

Unfortunately prices have increased, with FB fuelling that, likeit or not it seems that's how it is. Having said that, there are rude, thoughtless and crass people around in life, SW collecting has some of those dipping in to make a buck.
The reverse of that is pretty much the case on here, with decent, genuine and helpful collectors ( as you well know as you are one of them ). It is good to see you back here, I'm sure you will find what you are looking for, don't let the negatives grind you down, there are always positives to outweigh them.

Now get a wanted thread up and see how you go, welcome back :D
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Re: When did collecting become so aggressive?

Postby Snaketibe » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:17 pm

I'm sorry to hear this has happened to you. It certainly sounds like you've had no luck at all with these two sellers. The first was needlessly rude and greedy, the second may simply have accepted another offer before yours; it's really unfortunate for you, but from the seller's standpoint, until you've paid they haven't sold the figure, so if someone else has an offer accepted and pays (or simply pays the full asking price) before you accept your counter-offer, the item is of course theirs. Have you checked the 'Sold' listings for the second seller to see whether this happened, or was it pulled without selling? If it was the latter, I would recommend politely messaging them to ask about it. After all, if they made you a counter-offer, it's reasonable to assume they were happy to sell it to you, and it's juuuuuust about possible they may have made a mistake in removing the listing or it may even have expired. Either way, if it isn't showing as sold, it's got to be worth a quick message to ask.

Anyway, best of luck and let us know how you get on. Whatever happens with this one, I hope you manage to find a Dignitary that you're happy with soon :-)

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Re: When did collecting become so aggressive?

Postby indianawars » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:22 pm

I was just a little taken back by it all after only just stepping back into the water.

Just goes to show, no matter how long you step aside from the hobby, you've always got a home at SWFUK.

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Re: When did collecting become so aggressive?

Postby Clarkspie&chips » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:29 pm

It's a shame you've run into a tosspiece on your first foray back into the game but don't take it to heart. It's likely to be an eBay bellend rather than the hobby being full of shit munchers. I had exactly the same thing last year with retro computer games - i wanted donkey Kong country 1, 2 & 3 and found a seller who had all 3 with a BIN. I offered a fair price and got a similar shitty response. I checked eBay and I could buy each one individually for about a tenner more than my offer so I sent him the links but never heard from him again. I did take great delight in seeing them sat there for months going unsold though.

£90 seems too high for the old lady though and I recon you're in the right ball park with £65. Just be patient and you'll get there

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Re: When did collecting become so aggressive?

Postby Snaketibe » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:40 pm

Clarkspie&chips wrote:the old lady


:lol: I probably should have heard him called that before, but I haven't. Absolutely hilarious!

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Re: When did collecting become so aggressive?

Postby Stubbs » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:54 pm

Whats even stranger is a POTF mint on card can go for around £120 and a good condition loose is £90. I also need her for my loose collection but not prepared to pay £90 i am waiting.

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Re: When did collecting become so aggressive?

Postby theforceuk » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:20 pm

No matter how long your out of the hobby for, one things for sure, their are plenty of ignorant and rude people involved all the time. Welcome back anyway and good luck with the collecting. :)
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Re: When did collecting become so aggressive?

Postby TheJabbaWookie » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:48 pm

I reckon if you’ve done your research on costings, you’re in the right area price wise (and it’s not an insulting price) it’s always good to throw in a bid you consider a reasonable one. Sure you might get the odd rude response from a twat seller (you probably don’t want to buy from him anyway) and when you hit it lucky it feels good and outweighs the bad. Makes it all worth it.

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Re: When did collecting become so aggressive?

Postby SAVORY100 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:44 pm

Such a shame...
I wouldn’t worry, move on and find another. Without a nose rub they can be oddly tough (as most folk don’t rate the figure), but you should never be shy to offer your price and accept that you’ll be turned down once in a while... you shouldn’t have to be treated like that in return though!!!
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Re: When did collecting become so aggressive?

Postby indianawars » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:54 pm

You're all a great bunch of lads...

Oddly, it has never been a figure that I've had the urge to own in the past. But after all these years, I thought that it would be a nice addition to finally add. It was just a shame that after a long breakaway this would be the first guy that I encounter :lol:

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Re: When did collecting become so aggressive?

Postby Robstyley » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:29 pm

Hey Damien, good to see you on the boards. Don’t worry about it, these things happen and it’s always a bit dog eat dog this game... especially on eBay and Facebook. Don’t get me started on the purple goon. I too have been on the look out for one for ages and got a nice one a while back for a good price but when it arrived it was damaged, had a big chip of plastic out the hat and one on the back of the leg. You couldn’t see it in the photos and the seller failed to mention it, I sent it back. I don’t have that much love for the figure but his one saving grace is the colour, I like it.

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Re: When did collecting become so aggressive?

Postby itfciain » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:18 pm

Hi mate - good to see you back on-board - and sorry that you had to deal with that twat on eBay

I think the current climate in the hobby can be a bit aggressive -especially to those that were collecting a while ago - the demand for certain figures has gone through the roof and you are sometimes paying double if not 3/4 times what you were 4-5 years ago. Figures that used to take days/weeks to sell now go in seconds - and for big amounts

I also think that we have a new wave of 'dealers' at the moment - some of whom I liken to those buying houses in the early 2000s - you could buy a house, paint it pink and 6 months later it would still be worth a load more money. Some of these guys have gotten lucky in buying figures that have then increased in price - they aren't necessarily good at sales, they are just sat on items that they paid a lot less for. The stinky, shitty attitude of some of these people is amazing - but yet people still buy from them as they are so keen to get their next plastic fix

Still, there are plenty of bargains out there to be had and good sellers to buy from - the hobby itself has grown massively and that has obviously increased the number of twats that you find in it - but overall it is still very enjoyable and the social side is top notch
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Re: When did collecting become so aggressive?

Postby Pomse2001 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:55 pm

sorry to read this has happened to you. Prices have gone up and this hobby have turned to be all about money for many people :( I remember the good old days where is was more fun to find a figure or a lot for nearly any money, this days are over.

I have also had many problems and people that get rude. A few days ago I won a childhood lot of auction, 2 min later I paid. ½ hour later I got my money back with only a pm about seller was out of town and that he would contact me when he came back :roll: 2 days later he cancelled the auction :roll: I think he was unhappy with the price he got for the lot and I gave him bad feedback :evil:

Last year I also had a problem, I won a childhood lot for a good price. Not long after I won the auction seller contacted me about his wife have sold the lot in a store for used toy and he cancelled the deal :roll: I again think he was unhappy with the price and I gave him bad feedback :evil:

I have said it for years I do not like what this hobby have become, fake weapons, figures, repro stuff, angry people, greedy people and crazy high prices. I do not have the same fun with collecting star wars today as I had years ago, but I would still miss it, if I did not have it.

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Re: When did collecting become so aggressive?

Postby choffialoopa » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:14 pm

Definately a minefield to maneuver. Especially to us newbies. I often get no response when I ask for a better picture of guns and accessories. I take it they know it is repro but want $$

All I've traded with on eBay have been very nice.


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