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Is Star Wars only for the rich ?

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Re: Is Star Wars only for the rich ?

Postby Pomse2001 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:39 am

A few days ago I saw a POCH cardback sell for £2300 it was a cardback, not even the bubble was there :shock: I have wanted a POCH cardback for years, but when I saw it sell for that price then I said to myself. I would never get a full POCH cardback collection and if I am lucky then I will get maybe only one because it would take me a year or more just to get that kind of cash without buying any other star wars items that year for myself.

Ok as many others I have been able to build up a collection so I could sell some of my variants and then I could buy a POCH cardback but then I would miss my variants :(

Ok I know some POCH cardbacks is more rare than others but the cheapest of the ones I want I have seen sell lately sold for £614 :shock:

I mean if you can only buy one item each year, then what is the fun in that ? :?

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Re: Is Star Wars only for the rich ?

Postby Pomse2001 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:57 am

Crumm wrote:
Pomse2001 wrote:After all of us have seen the prices going up and up. Then I am beginning to think if people want to have a focus on

Palitoy moc
Lili Ledy cardbacks, moc or boxes
Poch/pbp cardbacks, moc or boxes
Meccano moc
Glasslite moc
Top Toys moc
Toltoys moc, cardbacks

Then you need to have a big wallet unless you maybe can live with maybe buying 1 item every year.

and a full run of loose figures complete with weapons can also cost a lot today.

Ok if you have patience then you can still find some of the items for good prices, but some items is so rare so you have to be fucking lucky to find them cheap.

What do you think ? :?


For the items you mention, and if someone were entering/ re-entering as a collector now (like I have) then I would say it probably is.

I am currently doing a mint loose run, and I can pretty much do that within my means if I am careful, do my research and don't buy anything daft. That said, it will take me some time to complete it because I can't afford to buy a figure that often (maybe one or two a month depending on which one it is, and what kind of deal I can get).

A 12 back MOC is out of my league pretty much forever, unless my circumstances change drastically. Even if they did, I have other things to spend that kind of money on before Vintage Star Wars (new car, family holiday etc.).

I am astonished at what some of the guys here can afford and have in their collections, but I understand that some will have been collecting a long time and traded and sold things on as the value has increased, thus capitalising on their investment and being able to finally afford that VCJ or blue snag etc. People who have been in the game a long time have been able to "upgrade" their collection as time has passed.

The only MOC I think I will probably ever own is Luke Jedi Knight, and that will be the jewel in the collection for me (He was my favourite figure as a kid).

I will still have to save up for a fair while to get one of those. If I can ever find one without a yellow bubble! :x


As some guys on here I would also could afford to buy some of the expensive things if I sold some other items in my collection. But as a collector what is the fun in selling some items in my collection, I am very sure that I would miss them :cry: and if the items I want is so expensive so I could only buy one item each year, then again what is the fun in that :cry:

I hope you find or get a Luke Jedi Knight moc :wink: Maybe a member on the forum can help you with one from usa they are cheaper in usa see link :wink: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Star-W ... 7675.l2557

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Re: Is Star Wars only for the rich ?

Postby Crumm » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:20 am

Pomse2001 wrote:
Crumm wrote:
Pomse2001 wrote:After all of us have seen the prices going up and up. Then I am beginning to think if people want to have a focus on

Palitoy moc
Lili Ledy cardbacks, moc or boxes
Poch/pbp cardbacks, moc or boxes
Meccano moc
Glasslite moc
Top Toys moc
Toltoys moc, cardbacks

Then you need to have a big wallet unless you maybe can live with maybe buying 1 item every year.

and a full run of loose figures complete with weapons can also cost a lot today.

Ok if you have patience then you can still find some of the items for good prices, but some items is so rare so you have to be fucking lucky to find them cheap.

What do you think ? :?


For the items you mention, and if someone were entering/ re-entering as a collector now (like I have) then I would say it probably is.

I am currently doing a mint loose run, and I can pretty much do that within my means if I am careful, do my research and don't buy anything daft. That said, it will take me some time to complete it because I can't afford to buy a figure that often (maybe one or two a month depending on which one it is, and what kind of deal I can get).

A 12 back MOC is out of my league pretty much forever, unless my circumstances change drastically. Even if they did, I have other things to spend that kind of money on before Vintage Star Wars (new car, family holiday etc.).

I am astonished at what some of the guys here can afford and have in their collections, but I understand that some will have been collecting a long time and traded and sold things on as the value has increased, thus capitalising on their investment and being able to finally afford that VCJ or blue snag etc. People who have been in the game a long time have been able to "upgrade" their collection as time has passed.

The only MOC I think I will probably ever own is Luke Jedi Knight, and that will be the jewel in the collection for me (He was my favourite figure as a kid).

I will still have to save up for a fair while to get one of those. If I can ever find one without a yellow bubble! :x


As some guys on here I would also could afford to buy some of the expensive things if I sold some other items in my collection. But as a collector what is the fun in selling some items in my collection, I am very sure that I would miss them :cry: and if the items I want is so expensive so I could only buy one item each year, then again what is the fun in that :cry:

I hope you find or get a Luke Jedi Knight moc :wink: Maybe a member on the forum can help you with one from usa they are cheaper in usa see link :wink: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Star-W ... 7675.l2557


I completely agree with you, I prefer to just collect and not have to sell anything to fund something else. You are also right in the fact that one purchase a year is not much fun :(

Thanks for the heads up on the USA as a Potential LJK purchase, that one went for a reasonable price!
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Re: Is Star Wars only for the rich ?

Postby Pomse2001 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:03 pm

Crumm wrote:
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Crumm wrote:
For the items you mention, and if someone were entering/ re-entering as a collector now (like I have) then I would say it probably is.

I am currently doing a mint loose run, and I can pretty much do that within my means if I am careful, do my research and don't buy anything daft. That said, it will take me some time to complete it because I can't afford to buy a figure that often (maybe one or two a month depending on which one it is, and what kind of deal I can get).

A 12 back MOC is out of my league pretty much forever, unless my circumstances change drastically. Even if they did, I have other things to spend that kind of money on before Vintage Star Wars (new car, family holiday etc.).

I am astonished at what some of the guys here can afford and have in their collections, but I understand that some will have been collecting a long time and traded and sold things on as the value has increased, thus capitalising on their investment and being able to finally afford that VCJ or blue snag etc. People who have been in the game a long time have been able to "upgrade" their collection as time has passed.

The only MOC I think I will probably ever own is Luke Jedi Knight, and that will be the jewel in the collection for me (He was my favourite figure as a kid).

I will still have to save up for a fair while to get one of those. If I can ever find one without a yellow bubble! :x


As some guys on here I would also could afford to buy some of the expensive things if I sold some other items in my collection. But as a collector what is the fun in selling some items in my collection, I am very sure that I would miss them :cry: and if the items I want is so expensive so I could only buy one item each year, then again what is the fun in that :cry:

I hope you find or get a Luke Jedi Knight moc :wink: Maybe a member on the forum can help you with one from usa they are cheaper in usa see link :wink: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Star-W ... 7675.l2557


I completely agree with you, I prefer to just collect and not have to sell anything to fund something else. You are also right in the fact that one purchase a year is not much fun :(

Thanks for the heads up on the USA as a Potential LJK purchase, that one went for a reasonable price!


I must admit I have thought a lot about selling my 90s and 00s star wars stuff and use the money for vintage. I have not bought anything of it or looked at it in 8 years. And since the prices have gone up and up then I do not have the money to collect vintage and 90s and 00s stuff at the same time. The 90s and 00 stuff does not mean that much to me, but there was a few items that I thought was cool. So I have been thinking about selling most of my 90s and 00s stuff and only keep a few items that I think is cool, like Grand Admiral Thrawn :lol: I think I have maybe 200 figures complete that have never been played with, maybe 100 moc and some playset and vehicles. But I do not know if it is worth anything today :?

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Re: Is Star Wars only for the rich ?

Postby subzero » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:00 pm

Pomse2001 wrote:
Crumm wrote:
Pomse2001 wrote:
As some guys on here I would also could afford to buy some of the expensive things if I sold some other items in my collection. But as a collector what is the fun in selling some items in my collection, I am very sure that I would miss them :cry: and if the items I want is so expensive so I could only buy one item each year, then again what is the fun in that :cry:

I hope you find or get a Luke Jedi Knight moc :wink: Maybe a member on the forum can help you with one from usa they are cheaper in usa see link :wink: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Star-W ... 7675.l2557


I completely agree with you, I prefer to just collect and not have to sell anything to fund something else. You are also right in the fact that one purchase a year is not much fun :(

Thanks for the heads up on the USA as a Potential LJK purchase, that one went for a reasonable price!


I must admit I have thought a lot about selling my 90s and 00s star wars stuff and use the money for vintage. I have not bought anything of it or looked at it in 8 years. And since the prices have gone up and up then I do not have the money to collect vintage and 90s and 00s stuff at the same time. The 90s and 00 stuff does not mean that much to me, but there was a few items that I thought was cool. So I have been thinking about selling most of my 90s and 00s stuff and only keep a few items that I think is cool, like Grand Admiral Thrawn :lol: I think I have maybe 200 figures complete that have never been played with, maybe 100 moc and some playset and vehicles. But I do not know if it is worth anything today :?


If it was me i'd be selling all that in a heartbeat :lol: imagine what vintage you could get then.
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Re: Is Star Wars only for the rich ?

Postby starshipriot » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:47 pm

I wouldn't want to start even trying a loose complete run these days. I think I joined the forum and started seriously collecting at the best time, before the new movies increased interest. Still about four figures off a complete run, and really need to get them before they go really silly money!

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Re: Is Star Wars only for the rich ?

Postby Woolyniner » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:59 pm

I think it is a shame the prices are so high. I put my own value on an item and will buy if I want it and if it is worth what I'm happy to pay. Unfortunately most moc's are IMO, are massively over priced so I don't bother. I also think some of the pricing of some weapons and the last 17 is just silly.

But saying that I have my very modest collection displayed in my bedroom and enjoy looking at it while listening to my vinyl records. I don't need to buy new vintage, I can just enjoy what I have, or by looking at some of the photo's on this forum (thanks for sharing :)). I seem to have slipped into buying about one or two items per year and I'm just fine with that.

So long term frequent collecting (ie runs) is for the rich, but if you chill buy here and there selectively and enjoy what you have it can be for anyone.

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Re: Is Star Wars only for the rich ?

Postby Mini99 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:31 pm

All collecting can be either a rich or poor man’s game, from collecting watches to thimbles there are high and low end items.
The most important thing to remember is to “cut your cloth to suit your purse”.
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Postby SAVORY100 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:35 pm

I don't think its for the rich at all... not one bit actually.
I do think it is for folk that understand you can't have everything in life and those that are willing make decisions...

I know If I was into going out all the while I couldn't afford it, if I smoked I couldn't afford it and if I drank I couldn't afford it either. I have another hobby (running) which in many ways is far more expensive and more time hungry.

I think the answer is that you can collect (and more importantly enjoy) vintage star wars easily on a tight budget if you want to. You don't HAVE to own everything, you don't have to do runs, you don't have to be a focus collector. You can enjoy picking up some things when you see them at prices you feel happy paying and wide variety of items from the vintage era that you could collect is vast. Stationery (HCF) is really really cheap, trading cards are cheap, micro tins (and other tin ware) are very reasonable, sigma can be done cheap too..

With every sector in the vintage hobby there is a DT sabre Luke (or higher with Ben and Vader) or a Helix set of felt tip pens... but there is also a run of Jabba goons or HCF pencil toppers that are just as fun... maybe more as you can handle them without fear!
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Re: Is Star Wars only for the rich ?

Postby choffialoopa » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:44 pm

Isn’t it tax heavy to buy from the states? On eBay and such? I mean from us in Scandinavia and UK?

I always avoid us in my searches for that reason

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Re: Is Star Wars only for the rich ?

Postby Dannywhiteley » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:54 pm

Collect within your means. That's always been true. The prices may have gone up but even in the early 90's when mint 12 backs were 'just' $100 - 150 they were still too rich for me. I've just settled for non-mint and only spent a bit more than that on average for a full set in the last 3 years.

Ive built a very nice collection on a budget I've the last few years after selling my 90's collection off in 2005 for relative peanuts. I never thought id get back into it, but bought, sold and traded my way up. I even picked up an early bird mailer tray recently for less than $100. :D

However, some things are always out of reach and I don't kick myself that I'll never own a palitoy 12 back VC jawa, painted hardcopy, rocket fett etc. I like art but don't expect to own a van Gogh.

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Postby spoons » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:26 pm

SAVORY100 wrote:I don't think its for the rich at all... not one bit actually.
I do think it is for folk that understand you can't have everything in life and those that are willing make decisions...

I know If I was into going out all the while I couldn't afford it, if I smoked I couldn't afford it and if I drank I couldn't afford it either. I have another hobby (running) which in many ways is far more expensive and more time hungry.

I think the answer is that you can collect (and more importantly enjoy) vintage star wars easily on a tight budget if you want to. You don't HAVE to own everything, you don't have to do runs, you don't have to be a focus collector. You can enjoy picking up some things when you see them at prices you feel happy paying and wide variety of items from the vintage era that you could collect is vast. Stationery (HCF) is really really cheap, trading cards are cheap, micro tins (and other tin ware) are very reasonable, sigma can be done cheap too..

With every sector in the vintage hobby there is a DT sabre Luke (or higher with Ben and Vader) or a Helix set of felt tip pens... but there is also a run of Jabba goons or HCF pencil toppers that are just as fun... maybe more as you can handle them without fear!


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Re: Is Star Wars only for the rich ?

Postby wrighty » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:44 pm

Being rich helps if you want to collect those items you listed, but most stuff are locked up and even with cash it won’t unlock it. Definitely vintage Star Wars collecting is not for the faint hearted!! :lol:

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Re: Is Star Wars only for the rich ?

Postby chipsteak » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:05 am

I started my collection with a few hundred quid. I should stress the groundwork was done before the Disney takeover, mind.

My situation isn't a typical one. I found myself homebound due to a chronic health disaster and needing rehomed to an accessable place I could be rehabilitated with. I'd spend a lot of time trawling thru literally every Star Wars auction on eBay wading thru piles of tat to get modestly described loft finds selling for modest prices. I'd keep what I wanted and clean up and sell the bits I didn't. The profits would sit in my paypal for use on the figures I needed. A couple of years of buying-and-selling and I had a loose run, the ships I had a kid in a complete ( sometimes tatty ) boxed condition and a bit more. All for very little money but lots of arsing about. I had *lots* of time on my hands and spent that time on this hobby. For me, the bulk of the hobby was the digging. It helped keep me sane during the homebound period. I still do buying and selling but to a lesser and more measured degree. I've gone too far on occasions and still have selling purges which fund bits I want.

I appreciate that my advice isn't of much use to anyone unless they end up with a hideous neurological disease or something similarly life changing but hopefully there's something to be taken from it regarding devoting some time to the hunt. I don't smoke or drink - again for health reasons - so the little expendable income helps too.

I don't have any early Palitoy MOCs using this technique. I've got some Pali 12 back reseals though.

I used to 'window shop' Star Wars toys online so I knew the stuff well. When was a busy and well man who, er, socialised like a fish, I never dreamed i would actually own the stuff.

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Re: Is Star Wars only for the rich ?

Postby jared007 » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:52 am

As a side note, I don't think any collectors with these sprawling massive all encompassing collections are rich - they have just been at it for years and decades now and have built it up slowly over time. They have likely purchased all the expensive stuff at much cheaper prices in days gone by. So don't feel pressured to spend lots of money cause you think everyone else must be.

Sadly, the reality is you can't cover the same ground these days with the same amount of money you could ten years ago. To serve as example, below is the price trend for pop-up R2 from late 2013 till now. The trend line goes from £60 - £240+ in four years.

Granted he is a more expensive figure, but the trend is comparable across the board for all items. So you probably do need a higher level of disposable income to collect now the way we all used to in the past.

As mentioned elsewhere, enjoy the hunt and know when to recognize a good deal - you can save money that way if you are lucky and/or willing to compromise on condition.

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