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Investor or Collector?

Postby Wreck-It Ralph » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:04 am

With so many well established Asset Classes why would an Investor pick Star Wars to Invest in, do Star Wars Investors exist or are we all just Collectors?
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Postby subzero » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:53 am

Wreck-It Ralph wrote:With so many well established Asset Classes why would an Investor pick Star Wars to Invest in, do Star Wars Investors exist or are we all just Collectors?


I'm a collector who's unintentionally turned small time investor, iv'e pretty much collected almost everything I want now accept for just several more trilogo pieces. If I get lucky and spot a relatively cheap figure in nice condition then i'll try and go for it just to put away for a few years, to be honest I think the 'investment' is just an excuse to buy more figures. :lol: Not talking a lot though just the odd one here and there.
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Postby Pomse2001 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:08 am

I know there is investors out there, even in denmark where I Live. I here from some new collectors that they like the new prices and they collect and will sell when they get old so they have more money when they go on pension.

I am a Collector and if I could choose the value of the star wars toy today. Then I would love to have the old prices from the early 00 back, I have no plan about selling my star wars when I go on pension.

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Postby Clarkspie&chips » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:22 am

I am a collector plain and simply because I do it for the joy of the hobby and whilst it's nice to know what I own is worth more than I paid for it, I wouldn't care if the market crashed and it all became worthless. In fact I'd welcome that happening!

An investor in my opinion is someone who collects purely for financial gain with little to no emotional attachment to the items the have (since the will intend to sell them on anyway). Unfortunately some investors also have little to no respect for the hobby too.

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Postby inzaman » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:03 am

I am a collector and have no real intention of selling. I'd be happy for a 'crash' as i could then get some great figures without breaking the bank - i think that attitude definitely makes me a collector :D

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Postby yoda » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:14 am

Collector only myself I just buy what I can afford at the time if I like it. I agree with Clarkspie&chips and inzaman id be glad if the market crashed for vintage Star wars even though I've overpaid for items myself in job lots to get afew bits I wanted. I've never once bought anything with the idea of selling it down the line thinking I'll make money. I it has ruined the hobby for the true collectors who are in it just for the love of Star Wars.
It's actually a risk for someone paying big anyway for the purpose of moving later to make money. On the mocs the bubbles are a big risk the more they move around. Plus the market really could crash for these items it's starting to get silly prices. There is no guarantee with anything over time. I honestly think if I had no interest in vintage Star Wars and had a stash of spare cash to throw around. I don't think I'd pump it into that for the purpose of making a big hit later on.
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Re: Investor or Collector?

Postby subzero » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:00 am

With me 99% of me is a collector, if I ever make money from anything iv'e bought it will most likely go towards another figure I like to make it a little cheaper. I like the idea that the hobby can pay for itself in a small way if done right, iv'e already bought and flipped several pieces and took what I made off of a new figure's cost for my collection. If someone on ebay lists something cheap without researching it's value the i'm all over that like a rash and will use it to improve my collection, however iv'e also bought a couple of figures in the past intending to flip them and loved the figure too much and ended up keeping it in my collection. :lol:

I will also never sell anything I collect no matter what happens to the market, unless it's to upgrade or trade for something else I fancy, or if i'm facing bankruptcy. :lol:
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Postby poncho » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:03 am

collector at heart :-)

ive dabbled in buying to sell. didnt work.i just ended up keeping it/hoarding.

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Postby Dr_Ball_MD » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:55 pm

Collector, hope I never have to sell them! (again!)
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Postby pizzathehutt » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:51 pm

There was something on the radio I heard a few months back about investments

I cant remember all of it but it was to do with investing in the 70s, some people invested in shares or say an equivalent to an isa in a bank or something else

obviously people who had, did make profit but the biggest profit made, and it was something ridiculous! if you had bought £1000 worth of fine wine back then it was now worth £400,000 or something along those lines, craziness!!!
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Re: Investor or Collector?

Postby subzero » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:12 pm

pizzathehutt wrote:There was something on the radio I heard a few months back about investments

I cant remember all of it but it was to do with investing in the 70s, some people invested in shares or say an equivalent to an isa in a bank or something else

obviously people who had, did make profit but the biggest profit made, and it was something ridiculous! if you had bought £1000 worth of fine wine back then it was now worth £400,000 or something along those lines, craziness!!!


I was watching a pawn shop program the other day and a guy on there was saying some bottles of scotch whiskey for £100 5 years ago are now worth £1000. :o

Iv'e never understood a bottle of liquid being so collectable, it's not like as if this stuff is antique or anything even if it's from the 70's. :?
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Re: Investor or Collector?

Postby Michael Sith » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:45 pm

Collector and investor.

I collect, but I invest my time and patience in learning about and collecting the things I enjoy collecting, the payoff in that investment is, I learn more, I build a collection I know about, I enjoy my interaction with a community of likeminded enthusiasts, I will keep collecting and trading as it keeps paying a very handsome dividend by making me smile and enriching my life in that way.
That's a Return on investment that only I can value, for me. I share that investment with my Son who also collects, so even better ROI I get to spend quality time with my lad discussing memories of his childhood

Lad ...." remember when you got that boxed Millenium Falcon an ATAT Walker for me, where did that come from?" ...... Me
" that was your Grandma and Grandad, they got them from a car boot for £5", Lad " you fancy going to a car boot one weekend?"
Me " let's do it"

So the above may come accross to some as cheese.... but my point is, collecting is something we do but there are different reasons in the background as to why we do it, and that, I say again, is an investment well worthy of the cost attributed to it.
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Re: Investor or Collector?

Postby Mini99 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:49 pm

Michael Sith wrote:Collector and investor.

I collect, but I invest my time and patience in learning about and collecting the things I enjoy collecting, the payoff in that investment is, I learn more, I build a collection I know about, I enjoy my interaction with a community of likeminded enthusiasts, I will keep collecting and trading as it keeps paying a very handsome dividend by making me smile and enriching my life in that way.
That's a Return on investment that only I can value, for me. I share that investment with my Son who also collects, so even better ROI I get to spend quality time with my lad discussing memories of his childhood

Lad ...." remember when you got that boxed Millenium Falcon an ATAT Walker for me, where did that come from?" ...... Me
" that was your Grandma and Grandad, they got them from a car boot for £5", Lad " you fancy going to a car boot one weekend?"
Me " let's do it"

So the above may come accross to some as cheese.... but my point is, collecting is something we do but there are different reasons in the background as to why we do it, and that, I say again, is an investment well worthy of the cost attributed to it.

As per normal Michael, absolutely brilliantly put.

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Re: Investor or Collector?

Postby BradleyScott » Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:03 am

I would not look at it as a Investment in money. Just my opinion. Sure you can make money, there is money to be made just about anywhere as long as there is demand. If you get it at a steal of a price of course theres money to be made. Inflation comes into play as well. Demand drives prices, scarcity desirability etc etc etc... The list keeps going. Unfortunatley maybe not in are time as a lot of these figures have withstood the test of time there will come a time that they will succumb to their volatility of time. They are bound to fall apart, adhesive to let go, degradation and etc. Its a scary thought but one that must be met with reality and start becoming a factor in the coming years sooner than later. I hope they will come out with a process that actually seals the figure, sucks out air and protects the whole integrity of the piece. We shall see.

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Re: Investor or Collector?

Postby Wreck-It Ralph » Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:06 am

Michael Sith wrote:Collector and investor.

I collect, but I invest my time and patience in learning about and collecting the things I enjoy collecting, the payoff in that investment is, I learn more, I build a collection I know about, I enjoy my interaction with a community of likeminded enthusiasts, I will keep collecting and trading as it keeps paying a very handsome dividend by making me smile and enriching my life in that way.
That's a Return on investment that only I can value, for me. I share that investment with my Son who also collects, so even better ROI I get to spend quality time with my lad discussing memories of his childhood

Lad ...." remember when you got that boxed Millenium Falcon an ATAT Walker for me, where did that come from?" ...... Me
" that was your Grandma and Grandad, they got them from a car boot for £5", Lad " you fancy going to a car boot one weekend?"
Me " let's do it"

So the above may come accross to some as cheese.... but my point is, collecting is something we do but there are different reasons in the background as to why we do it, and that, I say again, is an investment well worthy of the cost attributed to it.


A very interesting post!

While most of us, myself included look at Investment in purely financial terms there are clearly other forms of Investment as Michael points out and the Returns on that Investment are emotional.

Generally when I have heard people use the term investor in Star Wars collecting terms it is in a derogatory way, the post above clearly shows this is not always the case.
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