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Telescopic, or not Telescopic, that is the Question?

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Telescopic, or not Telescopic, that is the Question?

Postby Wreck-It Ralph » Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:44 am

I read a post on Facebook (Fount of Knowledge) that claimed the MOC Telescopic Vader for sale at the Hakes Auction could in fact be a broken tip and not actually a telescopic saber even though it is AFA graded, is this possible?
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Re: Telescopic, or not Telescopic, that is the Question?

Postby aussiejames » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:57 am

https://www.hakes.com/Auction/ItemDetai ... ELESCOPING
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Re: Telescopic, or not Telescopic, that is the Question?

Postby subzero » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:37 am

That tip does look a bit too thick.... :?
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Re: Telescopic, or not Telescopic, that is the Question?

Postby Snaketibe » Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:52 am

Granted the AFA can be crap, but I very much doubt they would get this one wrong. True, the tip does look a little bit thick, but the end of the main part of the saber looks correctly squared off.

Considering the amount this will sell for, I'd ask the auction house for clear close up photos of the end of the saber taken from below (i.e. through the bottom of the case), so you can clearly see whether the tip is retracted inside the hole in the main part of the saber. If it's real, this should easily prove it, and if it is a snapped tip (which doesn't appear to be loose inside the bubble of course, although it COULD have snapped off prior to packing), this should also show that.

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Re: Telescopic, or not Telescopic, that is the Question?

Postby aussiejames » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:00 pm

Derby said the break point on the shaft just up from the tip is only found on DTs Image

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Re: Telescopic, or not Telescopic, that is the Question?

Postby Wreck-It Ralph » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:09 pm

aussiejames wrote:Derby said the break point on the shaft just up from the tip is only found on DTs Image


So what if it is a double telescopic sabre with a broken tip (broken before it was put in the bubble) would AFA be able to differentiate between a fully retracted tip and a broken tip. Does anyone know how far the tips retract as this could help answer whether the tip is broken or retracted?
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Re: Telescopic, or not Telescopic, that is the Question?

Postby Michael Sith » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:25 pm

I'm sure that AFA would be able to tell.

There are a number of tells as AJ has pointed out that it would be pretty catastrophic if AFA couldn't I'd a bona fide DT sabre from a broken tip saber.

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Re: Telescopic, or not Telescopic, that is the Question?

Postby Wreck-It Ralph » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:34 pm

Michael Sith wrote:I'm sure that AFA would be able to tell.

There are a number of tells as AJ has pointed out that it would be pretty catastrophic if AFA couldn't I'd a bona fide DT sabre from a broken tip saber.

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Sorry that is not what I mean. Assuming it is in fact a DT Sabre how do you tell if the telescopic tip is retracted or broken?
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Re: Telescopic, or not Telescopic, that is the Question?

Postby palitoyjunky » Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:11 pm

Surely by the finish on the tip of the sabre :?: :!:
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Re: Telescopic, or not Telescopic, that is the Question?

Postby momike » Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:07 pm

Looks fine to me, like derby says only the dts have the break off points


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