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Reproduction Weapons

Postby Bagy3 » Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:56 am

What are your thoughts on reproduction weapons? If you were displaying a, let's say, loose Bespin Fatigues Luke on a circle stand, would you mind if the weapons were reproductions?

They are very similar to the original ones, but would it feel ''incomplete'' if you knew that they weren't the ''real deal''? :D :D

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Re: Reproduction Weapons

Postby subzero » Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:10 pm

Yeah it would def feel incomplete to me, i'd forever be looking at it just knowing it's fake and it would spoil the figure for me, can't beat original and completing a figure to how it originally was.

I'd rather spend hundreds on genuine weapons for my collection than be given a load of fake ones for free, and if I couldn't afford real weapons i'd leave them incomplete or sell my ass. :lol:
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Postby jayums » Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:46 pm

I started collecting a few years ago and obsessed about everything being mint and complete, but for me the cost of doing this began to dampen my enthusiasm for the reason why I started collecting in the first place - I loved the figures as a kid.

Collecting some of the figures for the sake of it became an expensive chore rather than fun. Yes mint and complete is cool 8) but they cost a lot these days, with the exception of capes and a few sabers, most of them are pretty fiddly and annoying. Obviously the value is tied up in accessories since they are harder to get than the figures, but if you are collecting for fun rather than investment, you could have a lovely complete set of minty loose in a great cabinet at a fraction of the cost. It does seem rather perverse that a complete set of accessories is more ‘valuable’ than a set of minty figures without accessories - I know which i would rather have on display!

I do not touch repro stuff, but it is up to the individual what they buy for display purposes - the broader issues are that they are inevitably sold as genuine, the proceeds go towards making better repros, and they devalue genuine collections as buyers lose confidence as it gets harder to spot the difference. For these reasons I avoid repro.
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Re: Reproduction Weapons

Postby poncho » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:33 pm

each to their own.

display what you like

if how ever you come to sell on. please state as reproduction that is all i ask or destroy

i had a repro pop up saber for some time i eventually upgraded when a real one popped up for £25 some years back! i even squirmed at paying for that.
it took me ages to get all original weapons for my loose run

tbh the prices now is ridiculous

£100 for awing pilot blaster
£25 for a yak face weapon
£70 for a leia blaster
£40 for luke sabrer.....

etc etc

and £200 for a pop up saber is madness

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Postby lejackal » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:48 pm

poncho wrote:£25 for a yak face weapon

Or 13 quid with a free Nikto :lol: :lol:

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Postby lejackal » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:56 pm

I have actually had my repros on display in my cabinet for over a year.
Most of it came with figures on eBay and was kept when the figures were returned but I did actually buy some of the new floating repros for comparison purposes (rest assured none of these get passed on)
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Postby Pomse2001 » Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:31 pm

For me it would feel incomplete, so I would not do it today.

When I started as a collector I did it with the DT sabers for luke, vader and ben I bought repro. Today I would not display them, I can wait until I maybe get lucky to get the real thing. I have even taken my custom vlix down from the display it just feels so wrong to have something that is not real :(

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Re: Reproduction Weapons

Postby tobeshadow » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:45 pm

I found quite a few of the figs I bought in the 90s had repro weapons and it was really gutting and left me feeling cheated. Worse, it can make you think that your collection is pointless. Personally, I think anyone found to make or sell repros should be sent to an island and forced to re-braid vintage Princess Leia dolls in solitary confinement while listening to the crap 97 SE Jabba's Palace song on a constant loop! Like a twisted modern version of Papillon, but with no escape. Ultimately, everyone's collection should be what they want it to be, but not if that means destroying the original hobby!

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Re: Reproduction Weapons

Postby Dannywhiteley » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:54 pm

Anything repro devalues your collection to the extent you might as well stick a toothpick in Luke's arm than a repro DT sabre.

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Re: Reproduction Weapons

Postby subzero » Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:43 am

Dannywhiteley wrote:Anything repro devalues your collection to the extent you might as well stick a toothpick in Luke's arm than a repro DT sabre.


True, and a cut up cloth for Vader's cape that mom made. :lol:
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Re: Reproduction Weapons

Postby Cornish_jedi » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:23 am

Personally I understand repro weapons and accessories, and the desire for collectors to complete their figures on a budget. The supply, and now cost, for the orginals has clearly spurred the demand for reproduction items.

My real concern is when they are passed off as genuine orginal items and damage this has on the hobby, especially as these reproduction weapons are improving in quality all the time. I enjoy the hunt for pieces I don't have or really would like and if I can't find it or afford what's available then I have keep looking or saving.

If reproduction items were marketed responsibly with them clearly being identifiable as new items (completely different colour or marking) then I think would be great idea. This 'might' even curb the demand and price for orginal accessories. Unfortunately the caveat to this is we would probably be lining the pockets of the people also making items that look as genuine as possible.

I always have enjoyed discovering new bits and hunting for them, and want the whole community to be able to do this in same way without unnecessary trepidation.
Say No To Repro.... in my opinion

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Postby wicky0570 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:14 am

My collection is purely for my own display, I do not plan to sell it on, so I am not worried if the capes and weapons are a reproduction or not.

I have a very limited budget for my display and would rather have a complete figure on display with reproduction parts, rather than have no figure on display at all.

I do understand that it is when they are sold as original and con people. However I just could not afford to buy mint, complete, original figures so have on display what I can afford, and I am happy with my collection, even though it has some reproduction accessories.
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Postby wicky0570 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:21 am

lejackal wrote:. . . . I did actually buy some of the new floating repros . . . .


Could I ask what these figures are, please? I am interested as they may be some affordable alternatives for my son to collect?
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Re: Reproduction Weapons

Postby Pomse2001 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:52 pm

I do not like repro weapons and I would not display them with repro weapons. I would always feel they are incomplete :(

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Re: Reproduction Weapons

Postby Stubbs » Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:13 pm

Don't buy reproductions just leave the figure incomplete. When I collected in the early 90s I had about 4 weapons and was just happy to collect the figures as weapons where a lot harder to find without eBay and the internet.

I have a very limited budget for collecting but have managed to obtain an almost complete loose run with all original weapons and this has taken me almost 30 years on and off.

If you take your time you will find most items at good prices buying repro is just a lazy man's way of collecting in my opinion. Any one can go on eBay bang £50 on repro boom all weapons done.

I understand people have the right to do and collect whatever and however they want and that's ok with me but I will never accept reproduction in my collection. And I despise trying to find a complete figure and most eBay listings have repro weapons now or certainly a fair amount.


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