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Cardback lifting?

Postby Jsm2098 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:02 pm

Hi I bought this the other week but noticed there is lifting from the card itself directly below the bubble. I’ve never seen this before, is this a common thing? Thought I would ask the experts here! It is a Rotj Nien Nunb card. Regards.
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Re: Cardback lifting?

Postby Jsm2098 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:50 pm

Any one have any idea?

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Re: Cardback lifting?

Postby Snaketibe » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:43 pm

I'm really not very clear on what exactly you mean. Are you saying that the bottom of the bubble is lifting off the card (which is annoying, but sadly can happen), or are you saying that the card back itself is splitting into two layers? If the latter, that's not something I've ever experienced myself before with Vintage, but perhaps some other Forum members have?

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Re: Cardback lifting?

Postby Jsm2098 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:48 pm

Yes, the actual cardback itself is coming apart as in like two layers. I’ve never come across it before. It’s as though it is two pieces of card together but the card seems very genuine with a perfect waffle bubble. Thought maybe when the bubble was attached in the heat process this could happen as the rest of the edging is perfectly fine.

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Re: Cardback lifting?

Postby poncho » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:35 pm

card backs are too pieces of card put back to back and can seperate over time due too storage conditions or weak adhesive in the first place

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Re: Cardback lifting?

Postby Jsm2098 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:38 pm

Many thanks for clearing that up. I thought that was probably the case. Cheers

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Re: Cardback lifting?

Postby Mini99 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:34 pm

I’ve seen this a few times before, often if the card has been subjected to water/moisture.

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Re: Cardback lifting?

Postby subzero » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:24 am

Mini99 wrote:I’ve seen this a few times before, often if the card has been subjected to water/moisture.


That's what it looks like to me I reckon, damp conditions with too much moisture in the air can easily do that.

It's split but to me it also looks like the card had expanded a little bit too.
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Re: Cardback lifting?

Postby poncho » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:15 am

i had ewok moc once and its card was half coming away i used some paper glue just small amount and it was sorted

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Re: Cardback lifting?

Postby SublevelStudios » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:38 am

It's called 'de-lamination' and as previously stated, when the adhesive between the 2 ppieces of card begins to decay for whatever reason. This can be down to moisture and then the card drying over time.

I've seen countless examples of this on MOC's and other packaging. It can be fixed if it comes completely away but I would leave it as is and maybe invest in a GW case as this will keep the 2 halves firmly together.

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Re: Cardback lifting?

Postby Dannywhiteley » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:18 am

I used to work in a cardboard factory many years ago (not fun) and yes its delamination caused by cardboard getting damp then drying with a wave in the card. The dampening/damaging of the glue along with the pressure of the subsequent wave forces the two (or three) layers in the card to separate.


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