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Re: Woolworths Special Buy 8 Star Wars Figures for 99p Pack Research Findings

Postby jules_p » Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:35 pm

Cheers Mike for directing me to here. It is nice to see this thread, especially as I am lucky enough to still have my childhood 99p pack :-)

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Re: Woolworths Special Buy 8 Star Wars Figures for 99p Pack Research Findings

Postby Crumm » Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:53 pm

Wow. I am literally gobsmacked at the work done here.

Well done that man!
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Re: Woolworths Special Buy 8 Star Wars Figures for 99p Pack Research Findings

Postby spoons » Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:45 pm

laurencedyer wrote:Source of Origin identified.

Palitoy font source of origin.

Pack located Date of post Source Pack-status
Vectis 16.12.14 Childhood lot lot 4442 Open
Vectis 15.04.15 Childhood lot lot 262 Open
Vectis 15.04.15 Childhood lot lot 263 Open
Vectis 15.04.15 Childhood lot lot 264 Open
Vectis 15.04.15 Childhood lot lot 265 Open
Vectis 19.05.15 ??? lot 2137 Open
Vectis 25.06.15 Duplicate lot 5090 / lot 262 resubmitted Open
Vectis 28.04.16 n/a lot 4440 Empty x 4
SWFUK 21.09.17 Purchased over 15 years ago Resealed
SWFUK 19.04.12 Found in Nans wardrobe Sealed
SWFUK 19.04.12 Found in Nans wardrobe Sealed
SWFUK 29.03.18 SAS Auction March 18 Open
SWFUK 29.11.17 Ebay several years ago Moc up
SWFUK 02.09.14 Charity shop Sealed
Baggietastic 16.05.16 Duplicate from Vectis Open
Baggietastic 17.10.16 SWFUK Empty bag
Baggietastic 17.10.16 SWFUK Empty bag
Baggietastic 17.10.16 Ebay Empty bag
Baggietastic 17.10.16 Ebay Empty bag
Echobase 05.01.16 childhood open pack
Echobase 05.01.16 Poss childhood as on eBay Empty bag
Echobase 20.01.16 Poss childhood can’t remember Emp bag
RS 08.02.08 n/a Billy Boy suspect
RS 04.08.08 n/a Billy Boy suspect
RS 06.03.10 Childhood purchase Open
RS 30.06.10 n/a Billy Boy suspect
RS 23.10.16 Duplicate Empty / Moc up
RS 24.04.12 confirmed 06.18 as childhood purchase Emp bag
Direct Message 07.05.18 Childhood collection Empty bag
Direct Message 05.05.18 EB sale of Empty now Moc Up

Suspect font source of origin. 

Pack located Date of post Pack-status 
SWFUK LA thread 30.06.15Jeff Glanville Sealed 
Baggietastic 19.10.16 NEC or Jeff Glanville Sealed 
Baggietastic 19.10.16 NEC or Jeff Glanville Sealed
Baggietastic 13.10.15 (duplicate of the first pack) Sealed 
Baggietastic 06.06.15 NEC or Jeff Glanville Sealed 
Baggietastic 16.06.15 Anonamous baggie member Sealed 
9 Holy Grails 16.10.16 (Duplicate of pack 1 & 3) Sealed 
Echobase 20.09.16 Farthest From by a friend Sealed 
Laurence Dyer 17.11.15 Jeff Glanville Sealed 
Laurence Dyer 16.12.15 Jeff Glanville Sealed 
Direct Message 08.05.18 Jeff Glanville Sealed 
Laurence Dyer 16.12.15 Jeff Glanville Sealed 
Worthpoint 14.10.14 eBay sale Jeff Glanville Sealed 
Direct message 08.05.18 Jeff Glanville Sealed


Laurence, I finally got round to reading this and I think your research is exceptional and this has to be one of the, if not the best, post on SWFUK in all the years of going. Your research is really well laid out, detailed and convincing with no hint of bias. There is still a lot of debate with Toni stuff, I see no debate here.

As such when I got to your final point above I laughed out loud :lol:

Well done mate, if there was a SW collecting annual award you'd have my vote.
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Re: Woolworths Special Buy 8 Star Wars Figures for 99p Pack Research Findings

Postby Vin3po » Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:22 am

laurencedyer wrote:
The amount of investigating and comparisons you have provided is quite something, I am thinking you would be great in a forensics position :D


I don’t think I have a steady enough hand for forensics Vince.

I am surprised you have not had many questions relating to this post as of yet, maybe many have just not read it as of yet.


In response to your question from your comment regarding having not had many questions relating to this post as of yet, are you referring to collectors asking questions about their packs that may have Suspect packs in their collections.
19 Palitoy packs and 2 Suspect packs were identified from 21 packs located on the main UK sources of the Forum, Vectis & Echo. Maybe this is why questions have not been asked as the UK identified items seem largely unaffected.


With the suspect packs, have they been traced back to a certain source? have they come from one? I know Bill boy had a few of these and he was a wealth of Palitoy knowledge before he went rogue and made the fake prototype baggies and died several times etc lol. Do these suspect packs trace back to him or someone else? I sure I am not the only person wondering this?



Regarding the source of the packs I will detail the sources identified. I have been conscious of posting this data for several reasons.

One of the reasons for this is that the comparisons from the research have been able to be considered in an unbiased manner. The research seems to have been well received with no collector questioning the comparisons.

Another reason is that the source of a number of the Suspect packs trace back to one source. Unfortunately I have not yet been able to make direct contact with the source in order to establish the source further back and no accusations or allegations are being made but sharing the findings of the research that was documented.

What also needs to be considered is that these packs have been noticed for sale at events such as NEC & LFCC through other vendors as mentioned on the link below.

http://www.starwarsforum.co.uk/viewtopi ... ke+warning

Palitoy font source of origin.

Pack located Date of post Source Pack-status
Vectis 16.12.14 Childhood lot lot 4442 Open
Vectis 15.04.15 Childhood lot lot 262 Open
Vectis 15.04.15 Childhood lot lot 263 Open
Vectis 15.04.15 Childhood lot lot 264 Open
Vectis 15.04.15 Childhood lot lot 265 Open
Vectis 19.05.15 ??? lot 2137 Open
Vectis 25.06.15 Duplicate lot 5090 / lot 262 resubmitted Open
Vectis 28.04.16 n/a lot 4440 Empty x 4
SWFUK 21.09.17 Purchased over 15 years ago Resealed
SWFUK 19.04.12 Found in Nans wardrobe Sealed
SWFUK 19.04.12 Found in Nans wardrobe Sealed
SWFUK 29.03.18 SAS Auction March 18 Open
SWFUK 29.11.17 Ebay several years ago Moc up
SWFUK 02.09.14 Charity shop Sealed
Baggietastic 16.05.16 Duplicate from Vectis Open
Baggietastic 17.10.16 SWFUK Empty bag
Baggietastic 17.10.16 SWFUK Empty bag
Baggietastic 17.10.16 Ebay Empty bag
Baggietastic 17.10.16 Ebay Empty bag
Echobase 05.01.16 childhood open pack
Echobase 05.01.16 Poss childhood as on eBay Empty bag
Echobase 20.01.16 Poss childhood can’t remember Emp bag
RS 08.02.08 n/a Billy Boy suspect
RS 04.08.08 n/a Billy Boy suspect
RS 06.03.10 Childhood purchase Open
RS 30.06.10 n/a Billy Boy suspect
RS 23.10.16 Duplicate Empty / Moc up
RS 24.04.12 confirmed 06.18 as childhood purchase Emp bag
Direct Message 07.05.18 Childhood collection Empty bag
Direct Message 05.05.18 EB sale of Empty now Moc Up

Suspect font source of origin.

Pack located Date of post Pack-status
SWFUK LA thread 30.06.15Jeff Glanville Sealed
Baggietastic 19.10.16 NEC or Jeff Glanville Sealed
Baggietastic 19.10.16 NEC or Jeff Glanville Sealed
Baggietastic 13.10.15 (duplicate of the first pack) Sealed
Baggietastic 06.06.15 NEC or Jeff Glanville Sealed
Baggietastic 16.06.15 Anonamous baggie member Sealed
9 Holy Grails 16.10.16 (Duplicate of pack 1 & 3) Sealed
Echobase 20.09.16 Farthest From by a friend Sealed
Laurence Dyer 17.11.15 Jeff Glanville Sealed
Laurence Dyer 16.12.15 Jeff Glanville Sealed
Direct Message 08.05.18 Jeff Glanville Sealed
Laurence Dyer 16.12.15 Jeff Glanville Sealed
Worthpoint 14.10.14 eBay sale Jeff Glanville Sealed
Direct message 08.05.18 Jeff Glanville Sealed


I take it the above included in the investigation is not including Kev's packs posted earlier in this post?

So not surprised these along with other SW era mailers and all the baggies originate from Jeff. Boy he has a lot to answer for.

Cheers

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Re: Woolworths Special Buy 8 Star Wars Figures for 99p Pack Research Findings

Postby Jez » Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:59 pm

:o
Well if we had the annual awards that we used to have as a community (they were fun times), i'd say that you would be without doubt the winner of "The most in depth, informative and impressive research project ever!"

Well done Laurence, clearly a well considered and constructed presentation.
I've always had my doubts about stuff like this, comparing different labels and saying "they're different, so one has to be fake" as stuff like this wouldn't of had any QC back then. It would have been a case of; do it quick, do it cheap, "oh Marge we've run out of bags" "ok Ethel, i'll use these ones instead, no will will mind" etc. That said, your comparisons are overwhelming and i'm swayed. I think you've nailed it.

I'm really gutted for the UK as we've had more than our fair share of scandals: TT, Baggiegate and now this!

Once again Laurence, well done mate.

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Woolworths Special Buy 99p 8 packs

Postby geoffbroccoli » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:46 pm

Hi

I'm hoping to pick your collective brains... Does anyone remember exactly when these were released in Woolworths? I vividly remember buying a few of them in the summer school hols in Skegness and getting figures I'd long needed as a child... but can't place the exact year. I think it must be '86, '87 or '88?

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Re: Woolworths Special Buy 99p 8 packs

Postby Frunkstar » Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:33 am

I never actually saw them in stores but I am sure Laurence Dyer or Delboy could confirm for sure, 85 seems to ring a bell for me, there were 2 offer run of them in the same year BTW
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Re: Woolworths Special Buy 99p 8 packs

Postby theforceuk » Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:15 am

My Dad got mine Christmas Eve 1986 and I can say this with pretty much 100% certainty. My Dad tells the story how he was doing some last minute shopping Christmas Eve and he popped into Woolworths to see what they had. The staff were stacking the shelves ready for the Boxing Day sales and their was a load of Woolworths 8 packs and 99p special buy vehicles. He remembers searching for the 8 pack which had the best selection for what I needed.

I’m certain it was Christmas 86, because Christmas 85 I got the AT-AT and Christmas 87 a Jet Hopper Radio Controlled car.

I can’t say they were not around before this but it was certainly the first time my Dad found them. :)
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Re: Woolworths Special Buy 99p 8 packs

Postby edd_jedi » Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:19 am

I believe most of them originated from Reading in around 2015 ;)

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Re: Woolworths Special Buy 99p 8 packs

Postby theforceuk » Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:31 am

edd_jedi wrote:I believe most of them originated from Reading in around 2015 ;)


But what proof do you have? :roll:

I’m being sarcastic.
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Re: Woolworths Special Buy 99p 8 packs

Postby Mini99 » Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:04 am

edd_jedi wrote:I believe most of them originated from Reading in around 2015 ;)

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Woolworths Special Buy 99p 8 packs

Postby Frunkstar » Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:38 pm

edd_jedi wrote:I believe most of them originated from Reading in around 2015 ;)


Rolling about typing this :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Woolworths Special Buy 99p 8 packs

Postby momike » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:45 pm

Lol Reading

1986 sounds correct to me as my sister got me one on Boxing Day that year, only reason I remember is because it’s the nicest thing she ever did for me, pretty sure she went back to beating me up the next day :lol:

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Re: Woolworths Special Buy 99p 8 packs

Postby Bunglebubs » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:52 pm

edd_jedi wrote:I believe most of them originated from Reading in around 2015 ;)



:lol: :lol: :lol: That is hilarious

I remember seeing them for sale not sure exact year but '85 sounds about right to me.
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Re: Woolworths Special Buy 99p 8 packs

Postby Robstyley » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:18 am

It's crazy that these were just sitting around on clearance shelves for 99p. 99p for eight figures! Talk about trying to shift stock of a dying toy line. Think what they're worth now. Also that's only equivalent to £2.85 now. Now they want £15 for a shitty modern 2 pack.

I've got a question for the multipack baggie experts.. Frank 8) Were the figures packed in these completely random character combinations or are there multiples of known combinations?? Just curious as to whether they thought - we must have some goodies, baddies, couple of major characters etc.
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