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Another new palitoy 12 back variation 12ab?

Postby mr_palitoy » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:59 am

This topic has been mentioned previously by palitoyjunky on the SWFUK forum a while ago.

There are examples of the 12B card variation where the extra text "Laser Light and sound" on the back of the card under the Tie Fighter and X-Wing Fighter has been removed by taking a 12A card and running it through the printer a second time and blacking out the extra text, instead of removing it completely and then printing a new 12B card.

I have 2 example cardbacks for R2-D2 and Darth Vader.

I have taken pictures of the clearest example. It is best seen by shining a light on the card from a close distance. You can see the removed text faintly in both pictures.

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Does anyone else have examples of this? If you could let me know which characters you have it on.

Han Solo won't exist as we havent seen a 12B card. All the others are possible. We have Darth Vader and R2D2 so far. It would be super cool to see Jawa or Death Squad Commander because we dont see these as 12A cards. Maybe they were printed and then all of them overprinted a second time as 12B.

Please let me know what you have. With a picture if possible.

I'm in 2 minds whether this should exist on the palitoy matrix in their own right as a 12ab variation, or it could just be mentioned on the 12A or 12B sub page. It can't be spotted just from photos on the web, you really need to see it in hand to spot it, so it will be difficult for the community to categorise and collect. Am welcome to opinions on this.

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Re: Another new palitoy 12 back variation 12ab?

Postby mr_palitoy » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:21 am

One other mystery. Why didn’t they run any of the Han Solo 12A cards through a second time to black out the extra text?

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Re: Another new palitoy 12 back variation 12ab?

Postby Pomse2001 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:29 am

Wow thanks jason for all this great info 8) Looks like there is still a lot to learn about cardbacks :shock:

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Re: Another new palitoy 12 back variation 12ab?

Postby Palifan » Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:36 am

Here are 2 Luke 12 backs you can add to the list Jason.

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Re: Another new palitoy 12 back variation 12ab?

Postby mr_palitoy » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:28 am

Ok cheers. Thanks for the update.

So we have:-
R2D2
Darth Vader
Luke Skywalker

Looking for:-
Ben Kenobi
Princess Leia
Sandpeople
Stormtrooper
C3PO
Chewbacca

These would be an amazing bonus:-
Death Squad Commander
Jawa

:-)

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Re: Another new palitoy 12 back variation 12ab?

Postby mr_palitoy » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:45 am

mr_palitoy wrote:One other mystery. Why didn’t they run any of the Han Solo 12A cards through a second time to black out the extra text?

Jason


It looks like all the Han Solo 12A cards had already had figures and bubbles attached so couldnt be reprinted a second time.
It's possible that other of the 12A cards were also carded so dont exist as a 12AB variant. Keep checking those cards!

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Re: Another new palitoy 12 back variation 12ab?

Postby Pomse2001 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:56 am

Palifan wrote:Here are 2 Luke 12 backs you can add to the list Jason.

Ian


Wow this is getting bigger and bigger so much new info about 40 years old cardbacks 8)

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Re: Another new palitoy 12 back variation 12ab?

Postby Pomse2001 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:04 am

I have a Jawa where I can see some deleted text under the tie and the x-wing. Is it what you are looking for ? :?

Can you see it or do you want better pictures ?

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Re: Another new palitoy 12 back variation 12ab?

Postby mr_palitoy » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:30 am

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No, it's ok. I've played with the Hue/Saturation in GIMP which highlights the text better!

Latest thinking is that all 12B cards and 12C cards were overprints and it's only some cards that you can even see the text showing through on!

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Re: Another new palitoy 12 back variation 12ab?

Postby Davaider » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:31 am

Yes Can see it Pomse 8)
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Re: Another new palitoy 12 back variation 12ab?

Postby Pomse2001 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:49 am

mr_palitoy wrote:Capture.JPG

No, it's ok. I've played with the Hue/Saturation in GIMP which highlights the text better!

Latest thinking is that all 12B cards and 12C cards were overprints and it's only some cards that you can even see the text showing through on!

cheers Jason


I am glad that you could use it, I found another one this one is Tusken Raider, it came from the same danish childhood lot as the jawa came from and was sold in the same toy store, the same danish price stickers on them. I have used blitz on the pictures, I think it looks better now :D

I remember there was 2 jawa and 2 tusken raider 12 backs in the lot, I traded one of each to my friend søren, I know he still have them. I can ask him to check them if you want to know if they also have the deleted text ? :D

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Re: Another new palitoy 12 back variation 12ab?

Postby Pomse2001 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:50 am

Davaider wrote:Yes Can see it Pomse 8)
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Re: Another new palitoy 12 back variation 12ab?

Postby mr_palitoy » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:53 am

No it's ok, it looks like all 12B and 12C cards are overprinted. No need to go out of your way to get new examples at this point.

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Re: Another new palitoy 12 back variation 12ab?

Postby Pomse2001 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:04 pm

mr_palitoy wrote:No it's ok, it looks like all 12B and 12C cards are overprinted. No need to go out of your way to get new examples at this point.

cheers Jason


Ok, nice. I am glad that I could help :D But sorry to read all 12B and all 12C are overprinted, it could be more cool if they were not :D

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Re: Another new palitoy 12 back variation 12ab?

Postby subzero » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:36 pm

Lol just adjusted the levels one on too to highlight it then realised someone already did it, but this is the best I can get it...

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