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How does collecting compare to a year ago?

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How does collecting compare to a year ago?

Postby edd_jedi » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:54 pm

About a year ago I unfollowed all of the Facebook Star Wars groups because they were simply taking over my entire Facebook feed and I was spending hours every day trawling through irrelevant posts to find the occasional thing of interest. This was annoying for me hence unfollowing the groups, however it did give me (and probably others) the impression that there was a real buzz around collecting, no doubt exaggerated by the new films coming out. Now my only vintage star wars "fixes" are this forum, the VR podcast, eBay, and perhaps the odd Facebook post that somebody happens to tag me in. Plus with no new films there is no media buzz around Star Wars any more, so from my point of view it seems things have slowed down. But I am wondering if this is purely down to the fact I am viewing less vintage Facebook content?

So since I have unfollowed the FB groups, how has it been? Is there still a feeding frenzy every time somebody posts a loose imperial blaster for sale? Are there still dozens of posts every day by newbies "discovering" collecting again? Is stuff still selling really quickly? Or has it cooled off since the hype of the films has died down?

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Postby lejackal » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:08 pm

I’m a member of more groups now than ever and have only turned off one or two yet repeatedly see the same posts on my feed, even when I switch to most recent rather than highlights so I suspect Facebooks algorithms are just unhelpful.

In terms of sales common as muck items seem to hang around unless they meet one or more of these criteria:
1. Very well priced
2. Exceptional condition
3. Celebrity seller

Harder to find items seem to sell within a few hours to a day.

There is definitely less of a “buzz” around at the minute, there also seems to be a number of people selling up and a lot less people active than there was 12-18 months ago.

From a buying point of view
the best bargains are now and always have been on eBay
but you know that anyway :lol: (with the exception of a Palitoy MOC Luke FB being sold on here for circa £200 recently)

I’m actually really enjoying collecting at the minute, there are more bargains, you get a bit longer to consider a purchase and you can haggle a bit.

I’m not on the Echo groups so things may be different there.

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Re: How does collecting compare to a year ago?

Postby poncho » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:14 pm

i dont buyanthing these days really.

i have switched off notifications for all fb groups.

so i have to actively fing the group and browse.

from my casual browsing ive found loose figures even beaters sell for more than there worth imo still.

there are alot of new finds still posted daily amazingly

i have noticed variants arnt selling as quick as they were last year. pbp was the in thing and even loose beater conmon pbp figures were selling like hot cakes but i see there hanging around ages for a silly price which people were paying.

Beyond the toys! i think alot of vintage collectors have been put of recent price hikes and switched to none vintage toys. which is great i see the beyond the toys page is getting bigger and bigger in terms in volume and finds of items at affordable prices.

ive no idea on MOCs....

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Re: How does collecting compare to a year ago?

Postby theforceuk » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:17 pm

lejackal wrote:In terms of sales common as muck items seem to hang around unless they meet one or more of these criteria:
1. Very well priced
2. Exceptional condition
3. Celebrity seller

Harder to find items seem to sell within a few hours to a day.


This put's the present collecting climate in a nutshell. I don't no about Facebook I gave up before it really started. I like a bargain and waiting for a bargain on Facebook is like waiting for Donald Trump to say something sensible.
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Re: How does collecting compare to a year ago?

Postby Robstyley » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:38 pm

I don't go on there much, have a quick flick through a few groups every couple of days. Occasionally save/watch something. I can't deal with the shitty facebook interface of not showing me every post or the most recent one etc. And it's still all mostly overpriced in my opinion. Was just on there before coming here, 77 back 3P0 for $300, says it all really.
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Re: How does collecting compare to a year ago?

Postby Michael Sith » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:10 pm

My SW fix has always been this forum since joining. I don't do FB or any social media whatsoever.

I occasionally purchase from eBay, but most of my purchases are on here from trusted members. Prices on baggies seem to have taken a hike which is a bummer!

I have noticed some of the items I look at on eBay are more plentiful and reasonable in price but in the USA, and when you factor in postage and import tax it makes it much less attractive, there is one item right now I would buy at £45, but the postage to uk & import charges take it to £70 plus!
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Postby Wreck-It Ralph » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:53 pm

For me it is completely dead, I may as well be trying to collect MOC's in the middle of the Sahara! Last year was very busy buying year for me but this year has been very thin on the ground and I have not bought a MOC in months. Thankfully I have started collecting comics as well now so hopefully that will see me through the long buying voids that other collectors have told me about. I guess there is less of a feel good factor out there at the moment after the poor performance of Solo.
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Re: How does collecting compare to a year ago?

Postby Ruby2511 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:10 pm

Collecting is still a big part of my life and I really enjoy finding items for my growing collection when I get time :lol: :lol:

I am not on FACEBOOK or any other social media sites as I don't like them !!!!

I am very happy to be part of this forum and love to see what everyone collects and enjoy the topics posted.
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Re: How does collecting compare to a year ago?

Postby Taffius » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:04 pm

lejackal wrote:
In terms of sales common as muck items seem to hang around unless they meet one or more of these criteria:
1. Very well priced
2. Exceptional condition
3. Celebrity seller


Agree with lejackel that was also confirmed by "theforceuk".

I feel exactly the same way. My 1st anniversary is in December, I think there has been a noticeable slow down in just 10 months, but a slower sales medium on forum here. I like to think that my lots are just not the standard for this site. :lol:
fb seems a rush for quality priced items and seen a few angry disappointed people miss out.
I am still a member of a few groups as still developing and learning too. During a consolidation phase recently, a bit has been sold at a loss as its the only way it moves. A lot has gone via fb groups as not even a hint of interest here. Its all experience and my journey continues.

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Re: How does collecting compare to a year ago?

Postby TheJabbaWookie » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:09 pm

I’m on eBay quite a bit and I would say prices on loose are coming down a fair bit from a peak around about May of last year (unsurprisingly around the 40 year anniversary hype and on the crest of a wave following The Force Awakens and Rogue 1). For example Leia Organa sells for around £70 now whereas you might of expected to pay in excess of £125 last year. Also, if you’re selling, there are a lot fewer people watching auctions now suggesting less people are currently actively buying in the hobby on eBay at least.

Price reductions are not being effected as significantly on FB where items are still being priced at over inflated prices and sometimes left sitting for weeks and people are commenting that items are selling cheap when they are way above realised prices on eBay. For example people were still writing tempted on a nice condition Yak at £270, when I recently sold a mint one on auction on eBay for £170.

I also agree with what Poncho said that while the interest in foreign variants is still high realised prices on many figures on eBay are significantly lower and people are less inclined to pay over the odds prices for poor condition items on FB and they are left sitting for weeks.

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Re: How does collecting compare to a year ago?

Postby SublevelStudios » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:31 pm

The variant thing is certainly on the wane IMO. Not sure why that is but prices have reached a plateau and in some cases dropped.

I'm finding the Palitoy Collectors page really busy ATM, with loads of new members join in recent weeks - think we're at 1300 now.

And as Poncho says, the Beyond The Toys is as popular as ever. The great thing about collecting that is there is loads to go at and on any budget.

There's not the same buzz as 12 months ago but that's to be expected. Just wait till Favreau's THE MANDALORIAN hit's the small screen...

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Re: How does collecting compare to a year ago?

Postby Michael Sith » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:27 am

SublevelStudios wrote:The variant thing is certainly on the wane IMO. Not sure why that is but prices have reached a plateau and in some cases dropped.

I'm finding the Palitoy Collectors page really busy ATM, with loads of new members join in recent weeks - think we're at 1300 now.

And as Poncho says, the Beyond The Toys is as popular as ever. The great thing about collecting that is there is loads to go at and on any budget.

There's not the same buzz as 12 months ago but that's to be expected. Just wait till Favreau's THE MANDALORIAN hit's the small screen...



Yep the vintage "Fett Tax" will increase yet again once that releases!
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Re: How does collecting compare to a year ago?

Postby Taffius » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:30 am

Michael Sith wrote:
SublevelStudios wrote:The variant thing is certainly on the wane IMO. Not sure why that is but prices have reached a plateau and in some cases dropped.

I'm finding the Palitoy Collectors page really busy ATM, with loads of new members join in recent weeks - think we're at 1300 now.

And as Poncho says, the Beyond The Toys is as popular as ever. The great thing about collecting that is there is loads to go at and on any budget.

There's not the same buzz as 12 months ago but that's to be expected. Just wait till Favreau's THE MANDALORIAN hit's the small screen...



Yep the vintage "Fett Tax" will increase yet again once that releases!


I think Fetts have gone down in recent times. I have been struggling to minimise loss on mine but had to take a loss recently. Found that quite unusual.

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Re: How does collecting compare to a year ago?

Postby edd_jedi » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:30 am

Taffius wrote:A lot has gone via fb groups as not even a hint of interest here.


Yes I'm afraid that although visitor numbers and activity on the forum hasn't been too badly affected by FB, the sales forum definitely has. I think it is just the ease of posting stuff on Facebook that is attractive, especially how you can post to multiple groups at the same time.

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Re: How does collecting compare to a year ago?

Postby Gadders » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:52 pm

I've done a similar thing, Edd. I was getting fed up seeing post after post selling run of the mill loose figures for over inflated prices. It didn't help that the number of items I am looking for has dwindled away - I need one MOC for the 96 run now, and there are only a handful of other items on my wants list. I do occasionally take a peak in certain groups, but I find it very frustrating... they still refer to eBay as "evilbay" which really annoys me, especially as eBay prices are generally better than the group in question. And only the other day, someone referred to loose Warok as a "£100 figure". That's just mental.

On the other hand, there does appear to be a few more MOCs appearing for sale recently, when they had seemingly dried up in recent months.


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