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Teebo

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Palitoy-a

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ROTJ-c

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ROTJ-c (white hood variant) - PHOTO COURTESY OF Snaggletooth

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ROTJ-h
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The Emperor

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Palitoy-e

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palitoy-n

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Euro-a

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Euro-a / Meccano - same as above, but with the inclusion of the Meccano red sticker (free figure offer)

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ESB-c factory weapons error (2 walking sticks)

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ROTJ-c
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Tie Fighter Pilot - For you grant

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ESB-c

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ESB-d

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ESB-h (Weapons Error- Stormtrooper blaster)

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ESB-h (Weapons Error #2 - Han blaster) - PHOTO COURTESY OF Snaggletooth

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Kenner Employee store red label baggie, photo courtesy of Grant & yet again a weapons error baggie

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Kenner internal V2
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Tusken Raider - NOT Sandperson as that just sounds so shit :lol:

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Palitoy-a - PHOTO COURTESY OF Kevin Bletsoe

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Palitoy-g

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Palitoy-i (open bag) PHOTO COURTESY OF - Kevin Bletsoe Under normal circumstances I do NOT include open baggies in the guide, BUT due to the fact that these Palitoy-i's have been encountered on numerous occasions in this fashion, both on their own with mint figures & accessories as well as no tape residue on the baggies whatsoever & also in sealed woolies 8 packs, I have to assume that they were found both open & in tape sealed formats.

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Palitoy-m

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SW-b

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SW-d

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SW-f

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SW-f - (weapons error - no staff)

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ESB-c

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ESB-h

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Kenner internal V2
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Ugnaught

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Palitoy-g

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Palitoy-l - PHOTO COURTESY OF - Laurence Dyer

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ESB-c

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ESB-d

Note not a single one with purple smok!

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Kenner 500 figure shipping case overstock baggie, classed as an ESB-h on the SWCA though
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Wallrusman (Wally) - one for you JC

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Palitoy-a Dark limbs extra bright pink tusks - photo provided by a friend EDIT: 26/1/15 was returned & regard as unconfirmed as it had a poor tape seal which was in question sadly, see below confirmed example of a Palitoy-a

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Palitoy-a Confirmed, PHOTO COURTESY OF Snaggletooth

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Euro-e/A

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SW-c

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Sw-e (see greedo for text/font type)

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SW-e Factory error (no text), baggie & seal type as well as the figure coo/paint apps are a perfect match, so I can only assume this bag did not have any print at the time of being packed, maybe just cut in between prints, or so.

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SW-e - Vertical font NEW ADDITION 31/1/17 PHOTO COURTESY OF RobbieZombbie

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ESB-d

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ESB-h
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Weequay

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Palitoy-b

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Euro-a / Meccano - red sticker (free figure offer)

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ESB-d

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ESB-h
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Wicket

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Palitoy-a

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ESB-c

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ROTJ-h

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ROTJ-h/B? Alternated Heatseal & the only baggie to date to have ever been found with this heat seal type, CONFIRMED with several examples from around the world all having come in multipacks
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Yoda

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Palitoy-i - (Amended from Palitoy-a due to baggie material) - sorry I got it wrong

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Palitoy-i / Meccano - red sticker same as the above but with the inclusion of the Meccano red sticker (free figure offer) - open ended baggie (unsealed)

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ESB-a - 2nd issue - (Brown Snake)

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ESB-a - 1st issue - (Green Snake) sometimes found with Lili Ledy accessories - CORRECTION - sometimes found with Ejector pin marks on accessories - false alarm erm sorry! :oops: & specific to the ESB Yellow 6 pack

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ESB-a - 2nd issue - (Orange Snake)

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ESB-c (brown Snake)

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ESB-c (Orange Snake)

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ESB-e

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ESB-f (Brown Snake)

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ESB-g

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ESB-h Extra wide

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ROTJ-f Hybrid - Black eyes figure with Orange snake

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Euro-j
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Zukuss

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Palitoy-U - PHOTO COURTESY OF - Laurence Dyer

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ESB-d

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ESB-g
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Lumat

Yes I know its not in the correct order, but I only just got my first Lumat baggie & the final one I needed for a full run of Kenner issued figure baggies :P

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ESB-h

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ROTJ-k & from what I know (to date) the only figure to have ever surfaced in this baggie type.

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ROTJ-l - I have had to make a new classification for this kenner issue baggies as although it is shown on the SWCA guide in the rarity section, it has not been given a classification on that guide, so this is a new baggie classification.
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Other Known Baggies

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Stormtrooper Blaster Baggie (heat sealed) - this is one that came in the early issued SW-b & D baggies with the stromtrooper (see stormtrooper baggies) & this is one from a damaged baggie, the blaster is slightly translucent - photo courtesy of a fellow baggie collector friend

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Removable limbs C3P0 net baggie (tape sealed) again one from a damaged baggie

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Palitoy Survival kit baggie

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Rebel transporter accessories baggie & photo of box outer offer sticker PHOTO OF BOX OUTER COURTESY OF - Kevin Bletsoe

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Jabba's pipe & bowl set baggie

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Salacious crumb - Made in Hong Kong Black font

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Photo of 3 Salacious Crumb baggie with various minor text variation, noted by Kevin Bletsoe PHOTO COURTESY OF - Kevin Bletsoe

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Salacious Crumb alternate large bag type, shown next to standard type PHOTO COURTESY OF - Kevin Bletsoe

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& Yet another Salacious Crumb Baggie that's turned up, sealed at either side IE Text vertical rather than horizontal, crumbs there are too many crumbs :? PHOTO COURTESY OF - Kevin Bletsoe

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Droopy McCool, tri logo no Text baggie

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Droopy McCool, tri logo Black Made in Hong Kong Text baggie

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Max Rebo - tri logo Version - No Text - Baggie type to be allocated

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Max Rebo - tri logo Black Made in Hong Kong Text Palitoy Baggie Baggie type to be allocated

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Sy Snootles Tri logo no text Version - No Text - Baggie type to be allocated

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Sy Snootles tri Logo Made in Hong Kong Palitoy Baggie Baggie type to be allocated

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Rebo keyboard & instruments kenner Version - no text

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Tri logo Rebo band outer baggie, with all three figure & piano bag inside, I found it quite odd that the large outer baggie sports the Black Made in Hong Kong font, whereas the inner baggies are all no text (just to further complicate matters lol) PHOTO COURTESY OF - Kevin Bletsoe

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Probot Droid version 1 & the ONLY VERSION I can confirm 100% legit - No Text heat sealed - Version 2 to be added shortly

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Probot version 2 - Not sure on these myself, but many have cropped up, no allocated baggie type for this, but same font arrangement as a Kenner

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Probot version 3 UNCONFIRMED a baggies I have just been made aware of, I have never seen another like it so sadly can not confirm its authenticity but, the backstory 'quote" - picked it up at a market stall in the barras market in Glasgow . Which was in a box of star wars parts lone ranger stuff and a few other old toys games etc. The seller said it was from the stuff she bought for her son and came out of one of the box sets, interesting & was bought at a fair (very very low) price, so why would the seller lie?, be great to find out further info on this baggie. PHOTO COURTESY OF - Kevin Bletsoe

ESB-a

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Takara wind up R2-D2 available in counter top display boxes in Japan - PHOTO COURTESY OF MARK YEO

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Dianoga (trash compactor monster) this one came in a very thick baggie similar to the ESB-h baggies but its a larger baggie with much thicker material, only available in the US Kenner issued death star play set, I have since confirmed that the dianoga came in a baggie along with the foam bits with the US Kenner issued Death star play set & NOT in a baggie like this, so I am assuming this is an overstock figure that was either bagged at the factory for onward sale as overstock or done at a later date for onward sale by whomever bought up the overstock, as the guy I bought this off has several of these he purchased in bulk many years ago from the states, as such it is unconfirmed & must untill further provenance is found be classed as a possible FAKE

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Packing Error MOC Tri Logo Ben, with Luke Jedi baggie inside the bubble (Green Saber/Palitoy-a baggie), must have been one of those days at the office eh :lol: PHOTO COURTESY OF SHAWN_K

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Hoth Wampa, to date I have seen this crop up in 3 baggie types, but can only confirm one as legit so far that being the one with text Made In Hong Kong photo taken from an ebay listing, then these other examples below provided by Kevin Bletsoe

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New addition 2/6/15 what is speculated to be spray mask test sample Hoth Wampas, PHOTO & INFO COURTESY OF KEVIN BLETSOE

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1. no paint at all on eyes mouth hands claws 
2. left hand painted, right palm and claws no paint
3.both palms painted no claws painted
4. no claws painted flat matt coloured eyes
5. both palms and claws unpainted
6. both palms painted, no claws painted
7. no claws painted,flat matt eyes , uneven eye paint
8. claws painted light coloured greeny/brown , palms painted, eyes and mouth uneven partially painted 

These further 8 examples to be added soon as I get the photos -

9. light grey eyes and mouth
10. no paint on both claws /left hand painted (circles)
11. both claws unpainted
12. dark brown painted claws
13. no eye/mouth claws painted no palm paint left palm
14.dull matt eye paint primer evident unpainted left claws
15. light pink/peach coloured claws
16. dark grey matte eyes & mouth /unpainted claws & palms

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Aftermarket Store Made up multi figure baggie technically not an official release as the title would suggest, this kind of pack was made up by some stores to try to move dead stock that was not selling at the end of the toy line, much like the woolies 8 packs, but made up in store, an interesting item all the same IMO & worthy of inclusion. PHOTO COURTESY OF - Andy Raymond
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PART 2 SINGLE FIGURE MAILERS

In this section I hope to do what little i can to further a little understanding on the single figure mail away/mailer figures that were the only 3'3/4" figures available as a mail in offer outside of the U.S (as far as I am aware that is).

These were as a rule offered as free figures when you send in so many proof of purchases or at least here in the UK when you send in X number of figure nameplates from the front of the carded figures you bought, hence so many cardbacks in circulation missing the nameplates from there fronts & even MOC figures with the pop's removed, I would like to give huge thanks at this point to Mike (Momike) & ShawnK for all the information that's already out there thanks to them & the photos of a lot of the Mailers that Mike has provided me via email.

Single figure mailers were available in the U.K Australia & in the U.S, I think they were also available is some other countries, but to date I have no knowledge of if & where, so if you can help, again that would be great, so please do get in touch.

Some figures were country specific from what I know so far, like the Rancor Keeper & Dengar which were only available here in the U.K, as a child I vividly remember getting a Dengar as a mail away as A. I remember not wanting to cut my cards down for the nameplates & B. what really makes me remember it is that I used to go over to Germany for my summer holidays to visit my family there & also my childhood friends who were all in to the SW toys, I got my Dengar in hand just prior to going & proudly took it there with me to show off, well when I got there my friends were all suitably unimpressed & proceed to frogmarch me to the nearest toy shop where I was rather shocked to see row upon row of carded Dengars, he was the most common carded figure currently available there :lol: - he was not on general release in the U.K at that time with it being on the mail in card front offer, see the promo add below which has to date never neen found in flyer form like the Rancor keeper & Emperor ones.

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From speaking to Mike I have the impression that there was an offer right toward the end of the toy line in the ROTJ era that had a promotion where you could choose which figure you would like to receive out of a choice of 6 figures, sadly I have to date not found as much as one scrap of information regarding this offer, so if you know anything at all about this offer, please do get in touch so some more can be added to this guide.

I have as yet not managed to get all the images together on photobucket to link here so I would ask that you please bear with me as it will take a while to gather them all together & get them up.

Sadly there is from what I have found so far, not one confirmed example of a sealed palitoy mailer out there for Dengar/Boba Fett or the Rancor Keeper or for that matter even a confirmed open example that can be looked at to confirm exactly which baggies or mailer box were used for these 3 figures, so for now at least a lot of the information regarding those 3 is speculation, so again if you have either a sealed mailer for one of these or have any information regarding them it would be greatly appreciated.

As with the first page of this guide, this post will be under construction throughout & constantly a work in progress
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Palitoy Issued Mailers Country of origin U.K

Palitoy mailers came as a plain white box with just the recipients address label & a bagged figure, no catalogs & paperwork like with there Kenner counterparts, each country had its own mail away issued figures & some were issued in several.

Funny as it may sound with the figures/mailers abundance, I have to date not come across a Palitoy issued Emperor mailer :? same with a Boba Fett, so sadly no photos for you on those 2 :( Now found & included both Fett & Emperor Palitoy mailers below :)

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Survival kit - NOTE the capture log shown did NOT come with the set

PHOTO COURTESY OF MOMIKE

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ROTJ era? AA mailer with offer note - photo courtesy of theguiltyone Palitoy-b baggie

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Overstock mailer Palitoy-b baggie

Admiral Ackbar

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Boba Fett - EDIT Palitoy fett mailer photo now included with what is considered to be the correct combination of baggie & box (overstock box - no addressee), as for the flyer, I had it included in the case for asthetics as a plain white box is not much to look at, but I speculate the flyer was included, though no evidence to date on if it would have sported the kenner or palitoy logo, so a Kenner one has been included, as no palitoy ones have ever been found, Please also see this (now somewhat outdated) thread for what (very little) is/was know/thought to be right to date -

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4-Lom Palitoy-b baggie

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Dengar - please note this did NOT come with the capture log it is pictured with, photo courtesy of Mike & we are not 100% sure if this the first issued box it came with in the cardfront mail in offer or if it was from the last 6 figure mail in offer I spoke of above, but we "think" its from the later ROTJ era offer, but can NOT confirm this 100% as no sealed examples have come to light as with the Emperor & Fett's

Some further great info on the Dengar palitoy mailer above in the form of the apology letter from Palitoy for the delay in postage of the figure due to the demand for it - PHOTO COURTESY OF Sublevel Studios

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Finally some solid conformation on which baggie came with at least one of the 2 issued Dengar mailers, this is now 100% confirmed as the baggie which came with the first issue ESB era palitoy Dengar mailer, same as the apology letter above but having come from a childhood collection with both the letter & the baggie, its very nice to put this one to rest after several years of speculation regarding the baggie type, though it is still not know if the same baggie & mailer box was used for the later ROTJ mail in offer - Photo courtesy of theguiltyone


Emperor - which I have now since finding a shipping case of them, can confirm having been issued with 2 baggie types, Palitoy-a & n see photos -

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With Palitoy -a baggie

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With Palitoy-a baggie, pain app's error (unpainted left hand)

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Palitoy-n - all these 3 examples came from the same shipping case, so I assume a new shipment of baggies came in halfway through packing the case & it was of no concern which baggie type came with the mailers back then & most likely not even considered at the time, though of great interest to myself now.

I also have a print error baggie one I will get a photo of up asap

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Rancor Keeper - again no sealed example has ever surfaced to date & I "think" I have the correct box for this one, but it can not be confirmed 100% EDIT 23/6/16 this is indeed the correct box as 2 sealed examples have been found to confirm it's authenticity, this is for me the ONLY mailer box I can confirm as correct for the RC, no addressed examples with the same dimension boxes have been found to date, some others are doing the rounds, but I am as yet unconvinced as to their authenticity.

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Nien Nunb - Overstock box, I don't have an open example, will update photos soon as I have

Palitoy single figure mailers are IMO one of the toughest of all items to track down when it comes to baggies when it comes to ones other than Anakin, you would think there would be plenty in circulation - now try finding them :?

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Refund of postage cost note, I have no confirmation of which figure this came with, but as it has been with me all my life, I can only surmise & speculate it came with the Dengar as that was the only mail away figure I got as a kid, I have never seen another one of these up for sale or in any collection & can only assume it came with Dengar as this was the only mail away figure I got as a kid.

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Apology note issued from palitoy for the shortfall on availability of the boba Fett figure during the mail in offer - photo courtesy of Mike

Flyers & comic book adverts for the above bar the Dengar which is already shown in the post above.

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HUGE UPDATE ON THE (TILL NOW SUSPECTED ROTJ ERA MAIL IN OFFER) -

This is a hugely exciting find, the photo was kindly sent to me by a fellow member on SWFUK (theguiltyone) it is a slip included in a mailer he has, this is a huge find in terms of both baggie & palitoy mailer collecting, it was speculated that there was a 6 figure mail in offer run by palitoy towards the end of the toy line, presumable to get rid of remaining overstock, though not one scrap of information can (till this find) can be found about the offer, note that not just figures but also the Darth Vaders collectors case & the display arena were available in this offer & the postage is marked Altrincham rather than Birmingham like other known ESB & SW era palitoy mailers, this really is a huge missing piece of the mailer history & pality puzzle, it is obvious this was a separate mail in campaign from the previous offers, as from what I know (see pic of the cardback sticker offers) the postage prices increased for this offer, the 4-lom was previously offered for 14 pence rather than the 15 pence stated in this later offer which would tie in perfectly with an increase in postage costs though minimal by todays standards :lol:

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Photo courtesy of theguiltyone

Some great kenner cards with Palitoy mail in offer stickers applied photos courtesy of Mr Palitoy

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Postby Frunkstar » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:26 am

Clipper Country of origin Belgium

From what little I know of the mail in's in Belgium Darth vader was sadly the only figure that was offered in such a promotion, though for some unknown reason he came in 2 baggie styles/types both issued in the same box.

EDIT 11/02/15 - a further 3rd example of this mailer has now been found & confirmed with a no text baggie & plain white box (photos to come) I can only assume it is a clipper overstock box that never made it to being printed for postage?

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Darth Vader - Clipper no text baggie (Euro-b) photo courtesy of Mike

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Darth Vader - Clipper Macau Text (Euro-c)

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It is also worth noting that the clipper vader came with a thicker textured cape in the plain text baggie but not the made in Macau & a thick tip saber in both.

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Clipper flyer for the above shown mailers offer

2 other clipper mailers are confirmed to exist, being Nien Nunb & Admiral Ackbar, no photos available at present! & it is unclear at this timeif they were offered in baggies with mailer boxes or in padded envelopes with loose figures
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Please check out the baggie guide here - http://www.starwarsforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=15937


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