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U Grade FAQ

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:08 pm
by shawn_k
I've been working on this for a little while now and feel it is finally to the point where I can share it. However, it will probably go through a few more revisions, so if anyone has any ideas for additions/feedback, feel free to contact me.

I find the effects of the U grade sickening, as I know many others do, and when I did the actual number crunching I couldn't believe the results. I hope this will open some eyes to the situation. I'm not trying to bash the U collector, only to inform. It's what they do with that information that counts. I feel that with a web page on this issue I can reach out further to an audience that doesn't join in forum discussion. I hope to make a graphic that people can use in their auctions which they can use to link to the page.


Shawn's AFA FAQ

Re: U Grade FAQ

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:12 pm
by Capetown
shawn_k wrote:I've been working on this for a little while now and feel it is finally to the point where I can share it. However, it will probably go through a few more revisions, so if anyone has any ideas for additions/feedback, feel free to contact me.

I find the effects of the U grade sickening, as I know many others do, and when I did the actual number crunching I couldn't believe the results. I hope this will open some eyes to the situation. I'm not trying to bash the U collector, only to inform. It's what they do with that information that counts. I feel that with a web page on this issue I can reach out further to an audience that doesn't join in forum discussion. I hope to make a graphic that people can use in their auctions which they can use to link to the page.


Shawn's AFA FAQ


Very well done Shawn.

This should be sticky'ed.

Re: U Grade FAQ

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:25 pm
by Paul-itoy
An interesting read for sure.

Just looking at the numbers done in 2009 compared to 2010, it's pretty convincing that this isn't going away anytime soon.

Re: U Grade FAQ

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:53 pm
by spoons
really good site Shawn - very clearly done too

I'm shocked by those 2010 figures, that's a lot of baggies and cards :shock:

Re: U Grade FAQ

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:14 pm
by burnsy
That's an awesome read Skemp.

It's a scary side of the hobby in my opinion.

Re: U Grade FAQ

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:00 pm
by iDrew
A great read - it is mind-blowing what some people do for the magic U grade :cry:

Re: U Grade FAQ

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:55 pm
by Lee Gregory
Shawn belting read and very informative have you posted this on RS and TIG.


It's one of the reasons I won't do business with certain people any longer , Robbie Mullan being one. Like you say it's their call but it's also my call who I do business with and I steer clear of folk who are killing the hobby.

Re: U Grade FAQ

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:39 pm
by ODB
Thats a really informative article and shows that some people just don't care so long as they get what they want or can make a quick profit. Also shows where the AFA's priorities are.

Re: U Grade FAQ

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:03 pm
by Josh
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Re: U Grade FAQ

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:48 pm
by tiefighterboy
It's all the truth Shawn. I mean I do not need AFA to tell me a figure is in mint shape when I can see it is sealed on a card or in a baggie. I also agree that even if it is a shit cardback, you destroy it's value to me by removing it from the card, thus destroying yet another sealed figure.

Re: U Grade FAQ

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:24 pm
by Paul-itoy
tiefighterboy wrote: I also agree that even if it is a shit cardback, you destroy it's value to me by removing it from the card, thus destroying yet another sealed figure.

Place a rough card in a Star Case and it gets a whole new lease of life. I'd much rather see that over a 'loose' figure anyday.

Re: U Grade FAQ

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:08 pm
by Vaders_Child
Very informative and truthfull site.
I used to be hooked on buying beater cards and sending them to afa,but now i wont do it as the damage done is not worth it.
I think U grading has had its day and the prices are dropping all the time,it was a new thing and a money spinner for a few but as with most things its dying off,the MOC rules and will always rule.
The outcome of all this will be that collectors will eventually have to pay inflated prices on moc's dependeing on popularity for vintage star wars collecting and depending on the strength of the vintage collectors market which has hit a low as of late.
The piece about the DT Vader and Ben has shocked me to the core as i did not think U grading could strike so low,but as has been proved there is nowt as queer as folk and the mind boggling things they will do.

Re: U Grade FAQ

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:28 pm
by weasel
Great effort Shawn, really hope this stops people going down the U root.

PS, I noticed one spelling mistake in the "Those examples are just basic figures. Is there any damage actually being done to anything rare?" second paragraph.

Ohh and I'll sticky this (If I can figure out how)

Re: U Grade FAQ

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:32 pm
by airjedijamie
i can go both ways on this i do have some u grades but i only get u grades if the card is ripped beyond help there was one carded figure i had i got a 4lom done as a u grade because some one had cut the empire logo and the name out of it but then i do have a lot of carded bits that i love and i got a ev9d9 on card but a mouse has had a bit out of the side of the card it got a low grade but i dont care it still a carded figure so

Re: U Grade FAQ

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:21 pm
by Justin H
thats shocking how its increasing all the time, soon though there will be so many graded that the prices will not be worth grading them, i won,t be buying any