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Re: JUST BACK FROM CINEMA THREAD - ROGUE ONE - SPOILERS ALERT!!!

Postby lejackal » Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:13 pm

I thoroughly enjoyed it but just to be that guy for a second..........nah, only kidding - it was awesome

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Postby Grant_C » Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:47 pm

Thought it was brilliant. They delivered on all promises and 40 years of requests.

The amount of stuff in this film.

Just gutted it ended. Could have made it 4 hours long and I would and I could quite easily sit there.

Off to watch it at Pinewood Studios in a few hours. It's going to take a long time to digest this.

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Postby SAVORY100 » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:47 pm

Watched it 2D now as well.
IMAX last night was without doubt an immersive experience, but it watches so much better in 2D. Tarkin is cleaner and works better, as does Leia.
Simply a brilliant film on second viewing I think over time it may yet break into the top three for me! :shock:
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Postby indianawars » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:51 pm

double post! Oops :roll:

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Postby Jez » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:58 pm

Wow 8)

What didn't work first of all for me (nit picking) the mind reading squid (new Rathtar), not really needed. The initial Flash Up of Rogue One and some of the missed opportunities with the music. That's it though.

What did I like? How long do you have?
The narration of the story, the beginning middle and end. Realising why Luke became Red 5.
The ships going into hyperspace but smashing into a Star Destroyer coming out of hyperspace.
The characters and all of their premature deaths.
I loved Tarkin and Leia, yeah they will never be perfect but they were dam close to it.
I don't know the characters well enough to say who I liked BUT, I actually liked them all.
Kathleen Kennedy said at CE2, our main priorities are plot, script and sets. They excelled on all counts.
The story was wrapped up perfectly and it felt like ANH was actually recorded as a 4.5 hour movie but we've only just got to see the first half!!

I don't think it will do as well at the Box office though as I think word of mouth will reinforce that this isn't a young kids movie. I'm taking my 11 year old twins (Boy and Girl) to watch it tonight at Pinewood Studios, I think my daughter will miss characters like Chewbacca and it'll be hard for young kids to comprehend Rebels having to kill people with an unexpected close quarter shot in the back. But for me, I bloody loved it.
I can't grade it until i've seen it a few more times. So much to take in.

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Postby Bonsai_Tree_Ent » Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:38 pm

I'd seen the trailers - in particular that one known as the 'supercut', and I really wasn't expecting quite so much from this film. They held a lot back!

Wow, the space battle at the end of this was glorious! I'd say, Return Of The Jedi finale excepted of course, that this is the best space battle ever committed to film. And like Return Of The Jedi the action cutting between the planet surface Scarif / Endor and the space above works really well to create a thrilling sequence. I've watched so many CG heavy superhero flicks that numb me in the final act by trying to do multiple climaxes, but Rogue One plays out its big battle scene far more elegantly. The stakes get higher and higher, and the crescendo occurs as the Rebel fleet literally hyperspaces into the arriving Star Destroyer and then the giddy delight of seeing Vader himself in action. In this scene Rogue One momentarily becomes a horror movie - the Rebel marines trapped in a confined corridor with an unstoppable monster - are we watching a Star Wars movie or Ridley Scott's Alien?

For my part, as a fan of the original Star Wars trilogy I was always just as interested in the big picture of Empire vs Rebel Alliance as I was in what our individual heroes were up to, and Rogue One delivered here. The Force Awakens didn't seem too concerned with showing the military aspect or hierarchy of the two factions, but Rogue One did delve nicely into this side of things.

I think the cast didn't quite have the star wattage and sheer likeability of Rey, Finn, Poe, Kylo and BB8, but in fairness this was a different type of movie. Considerably more gritty and serious than the frothy and funny confection of The Force Awakens. Having said that I did belly laugh at Chirrut's comment when they put a hood over his head...

10 out of 10, fave film of the year for me!

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Postby robpmarsh » Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:55 pm

OMFG!

Now that was a Star Wars movie......even had a little 'sniff' at the end when she turned round :D

I put this as my number 3 after Empire and New Hope

Things I liked:

1. Tarkin/Leia CGI was amazing.....such a leap since Tron Legacy's attempt
2. Old characters popping up (great use of old ANH footage in the cockpits)
3. Other references: Blue Milk, Moisture Vaporators, The Probot, Death Star Plans...the list goes on!
3. The Space battle...almost equal to Jedi's
4. They all died...sounds odd to say this is a positive but would have left too many loose ends and the movie was better for it

Things not liked:

1. No opening 'Star Wars' logo/music at the beginning
2. Description of each planet when you first see them (seemed very 'TV show' to me)
3. R2/3PO....scene was not needed in the hanger, would have been better to see them quickly on Tantive IV
4. Vader's 'hand gesture' when choking Krennic.....looked silly
5. Saw....character was not really needed and the scenes dragged on with him in (the whole mask thing reminded me of Blue Velvet!)
6. Watched it in IMAX 70mm and a lot of the scenes seemed 'blurry', I wasn't the only one who mentioned this in the group I went with. Anyone else have this issue?


11/10!!!!!!!

...cannot wait to see it in 3D tomorrow
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Postby Bonsai_Tree_Ent » Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:56 pm

Grant_C wrote:Off to watch it at Pinewood Studios in a few hours.


Ooh, you lucky bleeder! Grant, is there a public cinema there or have you got an 'in'?

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Postby Bonsai_Tree_Ent » Thu Dec 15, 2016 4:05 pm

Jez wrote:I loved Tarkin and Leia, yeah they will never be perfect but they were dam close to it.


After coming out of seeing The Force Awakens I remember thinking that my one big negative was that bad CG on Maz and Snoke took me out of the immersion. However, having rewatched The Force Awakens a couple of times at home on blu ray the fx don't seem half as bad. I think therefore that the sheer size of the image on a cinema screen exacerbates the flaws. Tarkin wasn't 'quite' right but we were looking at a close up of his face 20 foot tall. At home I strongly suspect the illusion will work better.

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Postby stormcab » Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:33 pm

I'm giving it 7/10. Up from 6/10 for TFA

For those that are asking why clips from the first trailers weren't there, they had a test showing which was apparently awful, so went back and reshot massive chunks.

Bullet points as usual

- no opening music
- In fact no memorable music at all
- Opens with a speck, is it a ship or something on the screen?
- Liked the film grain/quality
- Good use of natural lighting
- Little girl actor reminded me of child Anakin actor. Dull
- Great cast. A bloody shame they all had to die. IP Man actor Donnie Yen! Blinding idea. Pardon the pun. I had big hopes he'd do something mental with his Kung-Fu later.
- Humour was on point. Unlike TFA. Droid was ace.
- Tarkin & Leia were way too X-Box.
- Yes Darth Vader did have a swagger. Stood out a mile. Voice & tone were too off. Usually speaks slower. And that quip about strangling, nope, didn't work.
- I liked the first half better. I was always about the big end battles, but I found them very uninspiring in this. The originals had little scenes with individual pilots, this was just a mass of ships floating about
- However, the arrival from hyperspace of the rebel fleet gave me the raging hard-on, and the original pilots from ANH brought a lump to my throat.
- Loved all the little nods to the originals - sounds, droid's voices, cantina characters, probe droids
- Liked that physical models were clearly used for the Star Destroyers, but occasionally they weren't lit right, and looked WAY too much like models.
- What is this obsession with throwing in CGI creatures with tentacles? STOP IT NOW! Looks fake as shit.
- Loved all the outfits of Saw's men. Like the black Biker Scout helmet.
- Thought the texture of interiors was on point. That dirty weathered universe look
- Like others I question all stuff that is missing from OT. All those different troopers, those TIE fighters. Just stuff to turn into toys.
- Rey & Jyn are great role models for young girls, but they both tried too hard to be sassy & tough, and always looked like they were about to burst into tears. Leia was bang on without trying.
-mentioning the crystal which is used for the Death Star weapon is the same stuff light-sabers are made from? Stop spoiling the magic like Mediclorians in a Jedi's blood FFS


That's it for now until I think up some more stuff lol.
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Postby Spookedhippie » Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:25 pm

Absolutely loved it...even with only two hours sleep I've been buzzing all day...lived tarkin and the Vader scenes had my jaw on the floor...makes me want a Vader movie now...loved the references to the rebels tv show
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Postby chiffy » Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:46 pm

Just got back. Short and sweet. Fantastic! The fear in the rebel troopers when you got Vader coming at you like a madman makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up! Tarkin, i didnt have an inkling, well impressed with what they did there. Not that fussy so no negs from me whatsoever. Watching a new hope now :)
Actually remembered the one thing that bored me slightly. Most of the score sounded like it was from Spaceballs! :lol:
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Postby Andyclarke » Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:12 pm

Loved it. Way better than VII. Nothing will ever touch the original 3 but this ran ROTJ very close. Well worth a second viewing. Episode VIII is really going to have to up it's game after this one.

It tied lots of stuff in with the original trilogy withought forcing it.

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Postby Mrleemur » Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:23 pm

pretty much all of what I'm thinking about it has already been said, but I loved it, I have a feeling it may top my list, or I might just still be buzzing, we'll give it time.

CG is getting good, definitely not perfect yet, but it's damn good. I thought Leia looked better than Tarkin, but it was shorter, and there's may have been a little bit of a tear in my eye at the time (if anyone asks, I was in pain, OK :wink: )

can't wait to see it again!

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Postby Heith » Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:26 pm

Really enjoyed that, my eyes must be getting bad though as I didn't realise that Tarkington was CGI!, only thing that bothered me was the music was a bit hit and miss, loved the nod to Rebels off Bail Organa, enjoyed it a lot more than TFA tbh


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