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The Last Jedi - **SPOILERS THREAD**

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Re: The Last Jedi - **SPOILERS THREAD**

Postby db94 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:46 pm

Thank fuck we got a wee glimpse into how Luke survived on the island - catching fish with a huge spear, expressing milk oot an aliens tit and rumour has it the blu ray will have the cut scene where we see him release his sexual tension with the fish nun beasties.
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Postby theforceuk » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:12 pm

The way I perceived Reys parents is that Kilo Ren is stringing Rey along. We still don’t know who her parents are, why would he tell her anything else than something that is an advantage to him.

May well be wrong just saying.

Can’t wait to take my son to see it, he is so excited. Amazing for him to be growing up with Star Wars, still going as strong as ever. :D

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Postby jimmyp » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:36 pm

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Postby jimmyp » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:37 pm

This movie was f horrible.

The Leia in space scene was just written by someone who belongs in a mental hospital.

Snoke was the biggest waste of f time ive ever seen.

The Jokes where a joke.

It had a horrible middle section where the audience was supposed to pretend to be invested in Finn and Rose going on a mission that basically meant nothing to the overall mission/battle in the end, with the biggest pay off being, the freed some animals??

Reys parentage was the biggest hoax ive ever seen.

How can Snoke fire someone around the room just by looking at them, connect Rey and Kylo between Galaxys, read their thoughts, literally feel someones feelings... but the guy cant hear a rusty old metal lightsaber rattling like a drain pipe on his metal chair RIGHT NEXT TO HIM!?!?

The slowest fake space chase in history.

They totally butchered Luke's character.

Question for you... If a ship can tear through a star destroyer by going into hyperspace...why did the original trilogy characters need the Death Star plans at all?

Laura Dern WTF!!

Disney are too busy trying to push liberalism onto the masses by hijacking franchises like star wars to push propaganda.

The Original Star Wars had adventure, heart, interesting characters and was good movie making.

The Disney Star Wars has no direction, no vision, crap jokes, crap acting'. and is just poor movie making.

I should have learned my lesson after The Force Awakens -

I refuse to pay for anything Star Wars again.

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Postby weasel » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:39 pm

Just been to see it.

Underwhelmed TBH.

A few bits I didn't like or didn't quite see the point in, in no real order,

The comedy. It's a SW film, not a fucking comedy. 1 or 2 jokes I can understand but there were too many and they started to bug me. It's not meant to be funny.

Luke. The whole way he got on in the film and the way he died, just made him seem like a huffy teenager. It just didn't feel right to me.

That master locksmith bit. As others have said it dragged out needlessly, also the guy they ended up with didn't have that rose thing, so do master locksmiths just grow on trees?

Snoke. Zero character development or back history. He's the main badie and we learn as much about him as we did Darth Maul. I don't want his life history but A BIT of back story or info would be nice. Tho rereading this, I guess we never got much character development on the Emperor (in the OT, prequels don't count as SW). It still feels like a complete waste though.

The rebels running out of petrol. Ehhh rite :roll:

The First Order just follow along behind and wait for them to run out of petrol? Ehhh you have lots of ships. How about you call some more in and box them in, that way you can just sit there and blow the fuck out of them without a very boring chase? No, too sensible. Right, ok. Stick to your chase sequence that has all the excitement of a race between 2 fat people on mobility scooters. Also the Rebel ships are smaller and can stay out of range of the First Order's guns. Can they really? Strange that the Blockade runner couldn't do that in ANH. You would think if any ship could out run a Star Destroyer it would be one specifcally desigend to out run blockades. No. Ohh ok. That makes sense :roll:

The Rebels escape plan. Ok, so you turn the tracker off, and escape. And....when they realise the tracker is turned off and turn it back on, or when one of the other ship starts to track you (remember that's why Po couldn't just blow one of the Star Destroys up, cos another would take over tracking) the conversation will go like so "sir, they've jumped to light speed, ehh we've lost them. Someone turned the tracker off. I've just truned it back on...there they are."
That's not an escape plan. Unless you're either fucking dumb or 6 years old.

The empire/first order, can track in lightspeed. How? When? Great explanation there Disney.

Leia can float in space. Fuck off. That scene on its own ruined the film for me.

That suicide run on the Star Destroyer. The idea was fine, though as someone else said (sorry CBA to scroll back, you kneo who you are!) why has no one done that before. Also did a few rebel ships not get destroyed as they attempted to jump to light speed at the end of Rogue one? Are we to assume they just hadn't reached light speed yet or what? I also thought the way Star Destroyed blew up etc was a bit crap.

Po taking out all the turrets on the dreadnought was a bit OTT, but it didn't bug me like it seems to have a few other.

The Yoda bit didn't bother me, i thought it was fine.

Daisy being told her parents sold her from drink money or whatever it was, may or may not be true. She was told it by Kylo Ren who has a slight vested interest in trying to get her angry/pissed/vulnerable.
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Postby weasel » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:42 pm

That's another bit. Snoke said he connected Kylo and Rey, yet they were still connected after he was dead (as was Luke so it's not like he was doing it). Did they magically connect cos they love each other so? Did the Force do it just for shits and giggles?
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Postby jimmyp » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:46 pm

Leia can float in space. Fuck off. That scene on its own ruined the film for me.

YEP!!!

I was ready to walk out at that point.

The worst scene in any Star Wars Movie by Far.

Whoever came up with it should be fired on the Spot.

Leia is now Mary Poppins

WTF!! :twisted:


Kathleen Kennedy needs to resign as head of Lucas Film,

as this film was an embarrassment. :evil:

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Postby weasel » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:54 pm

I also seem to be the only one who doesn't like Kylo Ren, the character or the actor. Some people on here have said they tought he was great. I just find the character and the actor annoying, i don't think either are good.
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Postby spoons » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:02 pm

Agree with a lot of what you guys have said about it, good story, nice twists (loved the fact Rey isn’t a Skywalker) and good action.

The worst scene is the Leia in space and Akbar’s underwhelming death. Akbar should have been the one to sacrifice himself to save the fleet and scrap the purple haired lady. He could have even said it’s a trap!

The beginning of the film was awful but it did save itself later on.

Code breaker storyline was pointless and cutting it to make a 2 hr film would have been good.

I also thought the acting was really bad in places - Hayden C bad! And the jokes were a real distraction and often not funny.

Perhaps I thought worse of it as I really enjoyed TFA first, a tight film and a lack of hammyness.

Saying that Rey and Kilo were great and Yoda may look better when I watch it in 2D. The Yoda scene was good despite the odd looking puppet. The issue is HD is too good for puppets and CGI is poor - Yoda can’t win :)

Porgs were meh, other creatures were a bit Star Wars Rebels or too CGI for me.

7/10 and off for a second view
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Re: The Last Jedi - **SPOILERS THREAD**

Postby Star Wars Dad » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:18 pm

Just got back from watching it and can’t believe what they have done to Luke! Unbelievable! What was the point of bringing him back to kill him off?!

There is no emotional attachment to these new characters to make me want to watch the last one.

These films are supposed to be a saga about the Skywalkers and if the last one is now about Kylo Ren it will be a weak end to the saga.

So many pointless bits and bits left hanging / questions unanswered.

I thought the prequels were bad but Disney are killing this! Bring back Lucas...it’s that bloody bad!!

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Postby tobedesu » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:29 pm

A day at work to digest things.
Went with two mates last night and we ripped it apart on the drive home.

My basic idea of the Last Jedi was Rey would convince Luke to help out, he'd train her, take on amd beat Kylo Ren himself who'd become a lot more powerful, but would lose to Snoke, thus setting up the third installment of Rey being the Last Jedi taking on Snoke.
It would be quite dark and sinister.
Poe and Chewie would be involved in the space battles and Chewie would be seen a lot in battle on the ground.
Leia would provide the emotional bits and have a sit down with Luke.
Finn would fill in with all the shit bits ( I actually got that bit right).

Overall, I was well off the mark. And that's my problem that my opinion is subjective based on what I thought/hoped might happen.

Good:
Great to see Luke back.
Adam Driver is good as Kylo Ren.
Leia.
Snoke.
Yoda.
The island and the dark side.
An alternative use of the Force.

Bad:
Laura Dern.
Here's the problem: everything good that I liked I find something in it that irks me.
Luke back but incredibly sulky, almost child-like sulky at times.
Kylo Ren needs to man the fuck up and unleash his full potential.
Laura Dern.
The scene with Leia floating is, like said above, Mary Poppins.
Snoke: A shock death, a great twist but what a crime because he seemed like such a good character.
The casino part.
Lack of costumed creatures.
Poe's banter. I try to like Poe, but struggle.
Laura Dern.
Finn's scenes. Actually his suicide flight was his saving grace, shame.
The space "chase".
Laura Dern.
Captain Phasma.
And Laura Dern.

What bugged me was we get to see the continued scene of Rey handing Luke the sabre only to see him take it and toss it over his shoulder.
Two years we wait in suspense for that!

Maybe it's not a bad film, its all subjective, but I'm probably expecting too much connection to the original trilogy.
I realise all that's left is Chewie, R2, and 3po now.

I accept that Star Wars is finally moving away from what I know and love.
There a new Star Wars in town and it's time to put Poe on hold.

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Re: The Last Jedi - **SPOILERS THREAD**

Postby tobedesu » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:37 pm

spoons wrote:
The worst scene is the Leia in space and Akbar’s underwhelming death. Akbar should have been the one to sacrifice himself to save the fleet and scrap the purple haired lady. He could have even said it’s a trap!


Definitely.
He should've said "lady, your purple rinse is a fuckin' trap", headbutted her then took over the suicide mission.
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Postby lambis500 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:40 pm

Another thing I will add..... I think that C3-PO has been criminally underused in both films,More so in TLJ.

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Re: The Last Jedi - **SPOILERS THREAD**

Postby Dorsetmark » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:47 pm

How can they say this is best Star Wars film :shock:
Marginally better than tfa ( but I hated that :wink: )
Rogue One was miles better, Hell The Phantom Menace is probably better

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Re: The Last Jedi - **SPOILERS THREAD**

Postby jimmyp » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:56 am

It's actually damaging to watch these new Star Wars films as they are now starting to affect the way you watch and see the originals movies.

I will only watch the original movies and maybe rouge one from now on.

I'm done!! :evil:


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