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Re: I'd like to say it's getting silly now, but too late

Postby Robstyley » Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:47 pm

Aside from the price, which is insane.. obviously, it is a very cool piece which I have never seen. So thanks for posting :D

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Re: I'd like to say it's getting silly now, but too late

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Re: I'd like to say it's getting silly now, but too late

Postby Stormtrooper88 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:15 pm

I guess this is a stupid question, but why is it on a Walrus man card?

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Re: I'd like to say it's getting silly now, but too late

Postby Mr-shifter » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:04 pm

Stormtrooper88 wrote:I guess this is a stupid question, but why is it on a Walrus man card?


Not stupid at all. There are a couple of other things you should ask as well.

Why is a ROTJ figure on an esb card
Why does bib have a white cape.

It is a preproduction sample. I imagine the bib is a first shot figure, or maybe even a hard copy, I'm not sure. Both are stages in the figures life before it goes into production. The cape and weapon will also be prototypes.

So Kenner had made this guy as a precursor to the bib fortuna figure being released. At this stage different colours and materials are tried out. Another part of the marketing stage would be to card the figure to see how it looks in the bubble, wether the fit is good etc etc but at that stage the bib card would have still been in the early design stages. So they used what they had, i.e. A cardback already produced to see what the figure and bubble might look like on a card.

It's a very cool piece, being sold at a stinging premium. A very small part of the bib fortuna figures story from concept to final piece.

If Oliver sudweeks is reading this, perhaps he will share a picture of his leia poncho which will give you a bit of a feel for other figures like this.
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Re: I'd like to say it's getting silly now, but too late

Postby Stormtrooper88 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:28 pm

Thank you Mr Shifter. Very concise answer and explains a lot.

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Re: I'd like to say it's getting silly now, but too late

Postby tobedesu » Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:36 pm

Mr-shifter wrote:
Stormtrooper88 wrote:I guess this is a stupid question, but why is it on a Walrus man card?


If Oliver sudweeks is reading this, perhaps he will share a picture of his leia poncho which will give you a bit of a feel for other figures like this.


Oh, do tell. What's the Leia all about?

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Re: I'd like to say it's getting silly now, but too late

Postby Mr-shifter » Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:57 pm

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Re: I'd like to say it's getting silly now, but too late

Postby Robstyley » Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:47 pm

Seen this one before, also very cool and weird. Jedi figure on a Jedi card of an Empire character!? Maybe not quite as weird as the other one, a Jedi figure on an Empire card of a Star Wars character. Strange to think potentially any combination could have been put together. The designers may have just toddled off down to the factory with their prototype figure/s and bubble, interrupted a worker on a sealing machine and said - "stick this on one of those cards" for us. And the prototype just ended up on whatever figures card they happened to be sealing at the time. That's how I like to imagine it happening anyway :wink:

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Re: I'd like to say it's getting silly now, but too late

Postby Darth Satan » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:33 pm

Bit suspect this one I reckon. Fine for an '83 figure to be on an Empire crad, becuase there would have been plenty knocking about. But an '84 one? No need.

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Re: I'd like to say it's getting silly now, but too late

Postby olisuds » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:29 pm

Just saw this post so thought I'd add my 2p.

Perhaps unusual but certainly nothing suspect about the Leia pink poncho. It's a full factory seal and there are now 4 known examples of the carded version and the figure is a first shot prototype that exactly matches known loose examples with non production paint, non production copyright markings and exact same pink poncho. Most carded samples were on earlier card back waves. Another example is the Han with non camo brown trenchcoat on a ROTJ 65 back ERG card. The last carded leia pink poncho example sold for close to $25k.

For what it's worth I think the asking price for the white coat Bib is a pretty steep increase on the last price it sold for a couple of years ago. These are iconic and very rare pre production pieces in limited numbers though. I think they should be around the same price as the Leia pink poncho.
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Re: I'd like to say it's getting silly now, but too late

Postby Awl Skulkerkey » Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:50 pm

punk_pat wrote:109 watchers!


Watchers do tend to be just interested in what the item finally went for. In other words curiosity
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Re: I'd like to say it's getting silly now, but too late

Postby _Lee_ » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:27 pm

Darth Satan wrote:Bit suspect this one I reckon. Fine for an '83 figure to be on an Empire crad, becuase there would have been plenty knocking about. But an '84 one? No need.


Nothing suspect about these bud. They are 1000% genuine and been about on the collecting scene for some time now. A few of these surfaced in Australia IIRC. Here is another ROTJ figure on an ESB card, which i very nearly purchased for my Lando Skiff run:

http://www.toyzine.com/toys/toys/star_wars_lando.htm

My theory on the cardback movie combo is that packaging designers would have had hundreds of old cardbacks ready to be used for mock ups etc and they picked up whatever was at hand at the time.

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Re: I'd like to say it's getting silly now, but too late

Postby olisuds » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:38 pm

Oh wow Lee, can't say i've seen that combo of carded sample before. What a stunner!!

I may have got my wires crossed and not sure if DS was suggesting the White coat Bib on ESB 48 back or the pink poncho on ROTJ 48 back made more sense but I've seen plenty similar examples of both. I don't think the logo or character/card combination made any difference although i have heard that sometimes they made them as bold and unusual as possible to make them deliberately stand out as a sample.
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Re: I'd like to say it's getting silly now, but too late

Postby steve obi wan » Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:02 pm

Bargain :roll:
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Reliving my child hood , only this time I have to spend my own money !

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Re: I'd like to say it's getting silly now, but too late

Postby darth_daddius » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:34 am

looks like it sold.
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