itfciain wrote:I get a lot of the anti-gift sentiment that is going on both on here and FB but it has to be a two way street - I had a chap on FB last night ask me for a load of weapons - I gave him prices and then he wanted a bulk price - which I gave him - then he wanted to do a deal. Yet when I said he could have that deal but I would like gift payment or for him to cover the fees he gets all uppity - 'Oh I don't do gift' - 'Oh I thought PayPal was included'
It annoys me all this 'well the seller should swallow the fees' - that's all well and good but then stop trying to screw the seller down on price at the same time
My reputation is worth more than a few hundred quid and I intend to keep it that way. I will always give people the option of paying fees and have no problem if that is what they want to do. I think the no Paypal gift rule should obviously count to those new to the forums or with very limited feedback but for those of us who have been a while then surely it is down to the buyer whether they chose to trust us or not?
I'm the same. Whenever I sell on here my prices assume either gift payment, hopefully people know i'm not a scammer, or that the buyer pays the fees. I've had a few people back out of deals over this but that's their choice. I state quite clearly in my listings my prices don't include PP or that the buyer pays them.
Personally, i don't have an issue with gift payments between regulars and trusted sellers. Our, frequently recurring problem, is people sending gift payments to ANYONE on here expecting everyone to be a solid stand up guy. Whilst we don't tolerate scammers it's impossible to vouch for every single member. Even once decent blokes can turn into scammers. Look at Han.
The whole poo pooing of gift payments is basically our way of trying to protect naive overly trusting newbies, or limit the scope for people who are out to scam. If done between long term regulars that's fine. At the end of the day use a little common sense, just check the bloke you're sending money to is actually likely to follow through, if in doubt pay the fees yourself.
Obviously, that does leave a bit of a gray area in terms of what exactly constitutes a "long term regular" or a solid seller. There are guys on here with hundreds of posts who have probably not said more than "bump" and "nice item". Going back to my previous example, Han was also a regular and one time decent guy and he ended up scamming people. As before, it's a case of using your common sense guys.