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Is this a re-seal...?

Postby tigerham » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:51 pm

Hi all, if anyone can give me a second opinion please as the seller said that in their opinion it is not a reseal (and they added that it was just their opinion). Any help will be greatly appreciated, Thank you.

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Re: Is this a re-seal...?

Postby apack7229 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:55 pm

It looks like it has dried glue on the top left corner. Unless that's dirt and a lifting bubble I'd say it's a reseal.
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Re: Is this a re-seal...?

Postby tigerham » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:58 pm

apack7229 wrote:It looks like it has dried glue on the top left corner. Unless that's dirt and a lifting bubble I'd say it's a reseal.


Well that's what I thought about the dried glue and just mentioned to them literally so see what they say. They have mentioned it is lifting on the top right corner which is what lead me to ask about if it is a reseal or not then put the dark marking at the top of the bubble together to think twice.

Thank you apack.

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Re: Is this a re-seal...?

Postby apack7229 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:04 pm

No problem, I hope I'm wrong but the glue just doesn't sit right with me. Also There looks to be lifting inside of the bubble but I don't think that is necessarily a bad thing as I think the bubbles can sometimes shrink and pull the litho. Is it Kenner or Palitoy?
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Re: Is this a re-seal...?

Postby tigerham » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:07 pm

apack7229 wrote:No problem, I hope I'm wrong but the glue just doesn't sit right with me. Also There looks to be lifting inside of the bubble but I don't think that is necessarily a bad thing as I think the bubbles can sometimes shrink and pull the litho. Is it Kenner or Palitoy?


Palitoy, which makes me think twice even more as they do not come up at all on the GG in any condition.

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Re: Is this a re-seal...?

Postby apack7229 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:12 pm

Hopefully you'll get some other opinions on it but I would say be carful with it.
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Re: Is this a re-seal...?

Postby tigerham » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:14 pm

apack7229 wrote:Hopefully you'll get some other opinions on it but I would say be carful with it.


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Re: Is this a re-seal...?

Postby apack7229 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:20 pm

No problem.
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Re: Is this a re-seal...?

Postby Snaketibe » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:22 pm

It's hard to be sure based on these photos, but I am suspicious about this card. As already stated, it does indeed look like there's glue at the top of the card above the bubble, plus there's some discoloration / glue / dirt beneath it at the top of the bubble too. I know the seller said the bubble was lifting there, so it COULD be caused by that, but I'd still be cautious. Plus, there's a lot of white specks of missing litho beneath the seal, which could be caused by the card slipping slightly when the bubble was heat sealed (and this could also explain the excess glue at the top of the card possibly), however it could also be where the bubble was imperfectly glued back on when being resealed. If it is a reseal, it's quite a well done one, but then again, if it is a reseal, it's not worth MOC money. Perhaps you could ask the seller for some more, larger and clearer photos to help you decide?

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Re: Is this a re-seal...?

Postby mr_palitoy » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:31 pm

Resealed at the top of the bubble with clear glue that has turned brown after several years. Seen it before.

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Re: Is this a re-seal...?

Postby tigerham » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:31 pm

Snaketibe wrote:It's hard to be sure based on these photos, but I am suspicious about this card. As already stated, it does indeed look like there's glue at the top of the card above the bubble, plus there's some discoloration / glue / dirt beneath it at the top of the bubble too. I know the seller said the bubble was lifting there, so it COULD be caused by that, but I'd still be cautious. Plus, there's a lot of white specks of missing litho beneath the seal, which could be caused by the card slipping slightly when the bubble was heat sealed (and this could also explain the excess glue at the top of the card possibly), however it could also be where the bubble was imperfectly glued back on when being resealed. If it is a reseal, it's quite a well done one, but then again, if it is a reseal, it's not worth MOC money. Perhaps you could ask the seller for some more, larger and clearer photos to help you decide?


Thank you Jeremy. I know from 're-sealing experience' that the white dots of the lifted litho happens when the bubble is not aligned with the original position on the cardback as a perfect line up will cover the majority of these up for sure.

I have asked the seller one last question, is the dark marking/stain on the top of the bubble or underneath the seal as this would, to myself, mean a re-seal as dirt and glue would have mixed and darkened underneath the bubble. If on top then it would mean simple dirt stain and would come off.

Now, having written this, how else would there be dark staining like sticker residue around that area of the bubble and nowhere else on the cardback?!
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Re: Is this a re-seal...?

Postby tigerham » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:32 pm

mr_palitoy wrote:Resealed at the top of the bubble with clear glue that has turned brown after several years. Seen it before.

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Thank you Jason. That's what I just wrote and thought. Would make sense.

Really appreciate all the help guys. Thank you!

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Re: Is this a re-seal...?

Postby subzero » Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:03 pm

A ROTJ Kenner Vader I had and sold a while back actually had a little excess glue around the bubble from the factory which was brown/yellowed and you could pick bits off of it ( wish I had a picture of it ), but it actually was a 100% original seal and not resealed and had a perfect waffle pattern. Iv'e also seen it before on another ROTJ bubble.

However with this Gam Guard it looks way different to the one I had as my one didn't have dry glue on the actual card, the Gam Guard does look very suspicious.
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Re: Is this a re-seal...?

Postby tigerham » Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:11 pm

subzero wrote:A ROTJ Kenner Vader I had and sold a while back actually had a little excess glue around the bubble from the factory which was brown/yellowed and you could pick bits off of it ( wish I had a picture of it ), but it actually was a 100% original seal and not resealed and had a perfect waffle pattern. Iv'e also seen it before on another ROTJ bubble.

However with this Gam Guard it looks way different to the one I had as my one didn't have dry glue on the actual card, the Gam Guard does look very suspicious.


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Re: Is this a re-seal...?

Postby tigerham » Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:14 pm

Just got a reply from the seller agreeing that they now, at closer inspection, think it's a reseal too. All good.

Thanks again for all your help. Truly appreciated. :)


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