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Long Time suspected FAKE baggies scam / seller
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<blockquote data-quote="momike" data-source="post: 433059" data-attributes="member: 2360"><p>First and foremost the whole point of this thread was to warn the community about fake baggies that are in circulation, granted I think it's clear things could of been handled differently in regards to the way this came out but it is what it is now. I think frank mentioned that he told Jeff some baggies were not correct and he sold them regardless so what would be the point in him contacting Jeff to say you have been selling **** loads of baggies for years that I believe to be fake, was Jeff going to turn around and say I best contact everyone I sold them to and offer a refund.....was he heck....would you?</p><p></p><p>This is in no uncertain terms any kind of a witch hunt or victimisation towards Jeff, the fact is jeff has been selling these fake baggies for at least two years and we feel the volume of baggies and the amount of different type(s) of fake baggies leading directly back to him warranted him being named. </p><p></p><p>It's a well known fact that Jeff is very forthcoming when it comes to refunds and would imagine it's something he has become very accustom to over the years, it's common knowledge amongst collectors that he always refunds in a quiet manner and nothing else is said about it and is swept under the carpet so to speak, I think in most cases people are just happy to have got there money back, I'm surprised and a bit disappointed that more collectors have not come out and said the same, there is no denying jeff is a great source for baggies with top contacts, he also sells lots of high end legit items and imagine a lot of collectors don't want to burn bridges with him.</p><p></p><p>I don't think any one has come out and said Jeff is out and out faking these baggies himself and even if he was I doubt that could be proven so let's just leave that alone. Jeff said all his baggies are from his collection and he is just selling of his 1000+ baggie collection, anyone who deals with Jeff knows he always has big hauls coming in, so why is he acting like he's just some guy selling of his collection, if you have ever dealt with Jeff you will know he means business when it comes money and vintage sw so I don't get the whole selling of my collection routine????</p><p></p><p>if I'm being honest I feel some of the posts on here regarding frank are really unfair and immature, some post make frank look like a crank (that rhymes lol) and some kind of conspiracy nut job which he is far from. Knowing the kind of person frank is I doubt he will do a podcast, he's a bit of a caveman and doubt that would be his bag, I wouldn't blame him either as I thought the whole podcast (today's) thing was really very tacky tbh</p><p></p><p>If Jeff has been collecting and buying and selling as long as he has then some of these fakes should of been spotted a mile away because quite frankly some are just dog ****!!! he's either very stupid (he's far from), careless or just doesn't care and sold them regardless, either way he should be held accountable for his actions. </p><p></p><p>I think I speak for everyone on the group here when I say the intention was never a malice one, it was not a witch hunt it was a fact finding mission to put a stop to the fake baggies that were being sold by jeff and polluting the collecting world, if we have achieved that then that's mission accomplished in my eyes.</p><p></p><p>I think frank will be putting some kind of information/guide online in regards to spotting the fakes soon and it's worth noting that Jeff sells lots of legit stuff so no point in panicking as I'm sure many are fine</p><p></p><p>I'm going to post some pics of the baggies Jeff has sold on eBay and to other collectors below, some are recent and some are not and were sold two or more years ago.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="momike, post: 433059, member: 2360"] First and foremost the whole point of this thread was to warn the community about fake baggies that are in circulation, granted I think it's clear things could of been handled differently in regards to the way this came out but it is what it is now. I think frank mentioned that he told Jeff some baggies were not correct and he sold them regardless so what would be the point in him contacting Jeff to say you have been selling **** loads of baggies for years that I believe to be fake, was Jeff going to turn around and say I best contact everyone I sold them to and offer a refund.....was he heck....would you? This is in no uncertain terms any kind of a witch hunt or victimisation towards Jeff, the fact is jeff has been selling these fake baggies for at least two years and we feel the volume of baggies and the amount of different type(s) of fake baggies leading directly back to him warranted him being named. It's a well known fact that Jeff is very forthcoming when it comes to refunds and would imagine it's something he has become very accustom to over the years, it's common knowledge amongst collectors that he always refunds in a quiet manner and nothing else is said about it and is swept under the carpet so to speak, I think in most cases people are just happy to have got there money back, I'm surprised and a bit disappointed that more collectors have not come out and said the same, there is no denying jeff is a great source for baggies with top contacts, he also sells lots of high end legit items and imagine a lot of collectors don't want to burn bridges with him. I don't think any one has come out and said Jeff is out and out faking these baggies himself and even if he was I doubt that could be proven so let's just leave that alone. Jeff said all his baggies are from his collection and he is just selling of his 1000+ baggie collection, anyone who deals with Jeff knows he always has big hauls coming in, so why is he acting like he's just some guy selling of his collection, if you have ever dealt with Jeff you will know he means business when it comes money and vintage sw so I don't get the whole selling of my collection routine???? if I'm being honest I feel some of the posts on here regarding frank are really unfair and immature, some post make frank look like a crank (that rhymes lol) and some kind of conspiracy nut job which he is far from. Knowing the kind of person frank is I doubt he will do a podcast, he's a bit of a caveman and doubt that would be his bag, I wouldn't blame him either as I thought the whole podcast (today's) thing was really very tacky tbh If Jeff has been collecting and buying and selling as long as he has then some of these fakes should of been spotted a mile away because quite frankly some are just dog ****!!! he's either very stupid (he's far from), careless or just doesn't care and sold them regardless, either way he should be held accountable for his actions. I think I speak for everyone on the group here when I say the intention was never a malice one, it was not a witch hunt it was a fact finding mission to put a stop to the fake baggies that were being sold by jeff and polluting the collecting world, if we have achieved that then that's mission accomplished in my eyes. I think frank will be putting some kind of information/guide online in regards to spotting the fakes soon and it's worth noting that Jeff sells lots of legit stuff so no point in panicking as I'm sure many are fine I'm going to post some pics of the baggies Jeff has sold on eBay and to other collectors below, some are recent and some are not and were sold two or more years ago. [/QUOTE]
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