Not sure what these Turkish Uzay figures are

[Stirfry]

Hello everyone, this is my first post because I just bought a recarded vintage collection but in the box came some Turkish figures called Uzay on new cards which I have never heard of. I am not a vintage collector and I almost know nothing about them but I just liked having a big set of re-carded figures

Anyway I googled them and found out that some were more than $100. I am guessing what I have are copies or fakes but I like them anyway but they were thrown in with the main collection, so I didn't really pay anything for them. I apologise for the pictures cos I took it on my iphone.

Also, I don't know what this black yoda thing is, I think it might be polish or something but I can't find anything about it.

But can anyone tell me anything about them? Thank you all



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[PGowdy]

Yeah these are just customs of vintage Uzay figures. Uzay were the Turkish Star Wars figures.

 

[aussiejames]

The 'Polish' Yoda is a Nathan Edwards (turd) custom- looks nothing like a real Polish card & has a painted Kenner figure attached.
Real Uzay will fetch $100++, nothing pictured is real.

 

[Joseph_Y]

As has been mentioned they're all pretty common to find on Ebay, newly made, custom figures, based on both the Turkish Uzay line, as well as the Yoda, which the Polish Yoda never even came carded, so that piece is pure custom fantasy, not even an attempt at a custom of a real item.

Here's an article on the real thing. It's a bit outdated and there's a TON of info that I've gotten since then that needs to be added. BUT whats there is still accurate,and shows good pics of the real thing.

http://theswca.com/images-speci/yglesias/uzay.html

Cheers
Joe

 

[Stirfry]

Thanks everyone for taking the time to reply, what a very interesting range of figures, after reading the article I can't believe I had no idea that such a valuable and sought after range existed.

Although I'll never collect those genuine uzays myself because they are so expensive I will definitely keep a look out for them in the future and watch any auctions with interest

How are these customs made, are they just other star wars figures that are re-painted?

 

[Joseph_Y]

I'm not much of a customizer, but essentially they just take Kenner figs and repaint them to look similar to the rarer bootleg versions, and they generally print the cards themselves, luckilly most of the fakes/customs that are out there are very easy to detect. Carded Uzays can range anywhere from $1500 and up. In fact a carded Headman(only 2 confirmed carded examples known) sold a couple of years ago for more than ANY other Star Wars toy item, including prototypes,has ever fetched.

Cheers
Joe

 

[Joe]

Was this the collection?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Star-Wars-Bulk-Carded-Collection-150-total-/160712437825?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item256b353041#ht_4452wt_1396

Foreign Editions:

Polish

Yoda - (Carded with bubble)


Turkish - Starswar Uzay (All complete and carded with bubbles)

Headman

Chewbacca (Maymun Adam)

Stormtrooper (Asker)

See-Three P (C.PO)

Death Star Droid

IF so- what was the rest of the lot like? I thought the lazy one picture & huge list style auction was a bit much for anyone to really bid on - once I saw recards in some descriptions I glossed over it. Any gems?

 

[itfciain]

I wanted to go down and have a look at that one - for me there were too many customs for me to put a bid in without seeing it first though

 

[aussiejames]

"All figures are carded with bubbles and original weapons etc unless otherwise stated with a further description of the item"
etc. ????? I bet the 3 VC Jawas do not have original capes :roll:

 

[PGowdy]

:lol: Did someone pay 1300 quid for a bunch of recards and customs??

Just at first glance...(and without even enlarging the picture) most, if not, ALL of the ESB cards in that pic are fake. The VC Jawas... FAKE and obviously they will have fake capes so worth £1 each (tops!). Looks like the seller threw in a couple of genuine ROTJ (yellow bubblers) just to make it look like it might be genuine stuff but it really would take an idiot to fall for it.
I think if you spent 100 quid on this auction you've lost money. Quite a lot of money.

 

[Dark Sith Lord]

Yes I noticed this auction. Anything over £500 seems ridicolous for that lot! :?

 

[Stirfry]

Thanks for everyone for the replies, yeah that was the auction.

I am not 100% idiot, maybe just 95% but there's a little more to the auction than meets the eye which is why I went to look at it rather than just go by what the listing said (and didn't say).

The seller was very open about there being 100+ "restored cards" or re-cards or fake cards if you like but fake suggests to me that there is something hidden by the seller which wasn't the case.

So my basic maths was...

There are about 20 odd original carded figures some opened, other in Star cases were not and some in very good condition, so I just ball-parked them at about £400-500 (It doesn't really matter to me if they are worth a couple of hundred more or less either way).

There is an AFA graded Chewie a couple of loose figures such as Luke with a poncho and a custom blue snaggletooth.

Anyway, from what I can tell and having looked at the photos on rebel scum, the figures are all vintage with their accessories, there's also POTF coins and various other items such as product catalogues. I'm not 100% sure on the authenticity of any capes, cloaks as I simply don't have the experience with them and I am just here to learn.

So my reasoning was that the genuine stuff in the auction was worth £600 for the originals and AFA stuff (very very roughly), which left me with £700 for the other 110 customs and a bunch of newer stuff that was thrown in (which I do know a bit more about) and would probably cost me £100+ to buy especially with p&p.

So I just thought, I really like the look of the restorations and it worked out at about £6 each or something. So personally I don't mind paying £6 for a custom or a recard if it contains the original figure because I didn't buy them with a view to doing anything other than enjoy looking at them.

I'm aware that on a vintage collecting forum that a reproduced card may not be everyone's cup of tea and they may hate to look at them, but each to their own

There are some I will try and get rid of because I have the real versions of them... I just need to know that as long as it's clear in the item title that the item is a restoration or a custom or a recard, that is ok isn't it? I certainly don't want to misguide or misrepresent anything that I sell in the future because I would be genuinely mortified if one of my auctions showed up in here being labelled as a scam, so I'm trying to make sure that before I sell anything that it is what I say it is.

For anyone that is interested the originals include

Klaatu - ROTJ (x2 variations)
AT-ST Driver - ROTJ (is it called a tri-logo card if there are three titles?)
Logray - ROTJ
Obi-Wan - ESB
Rebel Commando - ROTJ
Chewbacca - ROTJ
Squid Head - ROTJ
General Madine - ROTJ
Luke Bespin - ESB
Boba Fett - ESB
Chief Chirpa - ROTJ
Rancor Keeper - ROTJ
Gamorrean Guard - ROTJ
Logray - ROTJ
Bib Fortuna - ROTJ
Teebo - ROTJ
Chewbacca - ROTJ
Rebel Commander - ESB
Nikto - Tri Logo
Rebel Solider Hoth - ESB

Thanks to everyone that has replied anyway I appreciate it a lot.

 

[itfciain]

Hi mate


All sounds pretty reasonable - I was hoping to get down and have a look as well but didn't have the time. I presume that both the ESB Boba and Luke Bespin are opened otherwise they could be worth a fair bit themselves.

I would seriously consider opening a couple of the cards if you are looking to sell them and check if the weapons are real or not - I have found that people will payer a higher price for a loose figure and a weapon than they will for a recard when there is no guarantee with the weapon.

Iain

 

[PGowdy]

So strange of the seller to use a picture with almost all customs/fakes in the picture. I'd personally be very wary of that kind of seller.
Not sure i quite understand how it sold for 1300 on ebay AND you bought it off him for 500. Colour me confused.

 

[itfciain]

So strange of the seller to use a picture with almost all customs/fakes in the picture. I'd personally be very wary of that kind of seller.
Not sure i quite understand how it sold for 1300 on ebay AND you bought it off him for 500. Colour me confused.

I don't think he did pay £500 - I think that is just how he was breaking everything up - I beleiev that he vought this through ebay

 

[Dark Sith Lord]

I agree Pete. Although it can work out the oposite way. Off topic but my Dad collects foreign coins. Someone but had a load of coins including silver but only put a single pic of some **** pennies so nobody takes any notice. Turns out there is almost a kilo of silver plus too coins worth £500 + all for £50 including p+P! Bargain!

 

[Stirfry]

So strange of the seller to use a picture with almost all customs/fakes in the picture. I'd personally be very wary of that kind of seller.
Not sure i quite understand how it sold for 1300 on ebay AND you bought it off him for 500. Colour me confused.

I didn't pay £500, that was the ballpark figure I valued the genuine cards at (I may be inaccurate because of re-seals etc but I didn't mind because I liked the collection as a whole). This left me with £800 or so for the other 130 bits and pieces which I thought was ok cos it's £6 per item. Some of the weapons on the items are worth that alone from what I've researched (which isn't much )

I probably have different reasons for collecting than others. I don't have a goal to beat the market as such, I just buy what I like to look at.

But on the other side of the coin, I have got some great stuff from very poor listings before simply because other people are very put off by it and don't bother to ask more questions and uncover what is really there.

I'm not saying I've got a good deal here or anything or that I recommend people to purchase from poor listings but I just want to learn a bit more about all this stuff in general

 

[Stirfry]

Hi mate


All sounds pretty reasonable - I was hoping to get down and have a look as well but didn't have the time. I presume that both the ESB Boba and Luke Bespin are opened otherwise they could be worth a fair bit themselves.

I would seriously consider opening a couple of the cards if you are looking to sell them and check if the weapons are real or not - I have found that people will payer a higher price for a loose figure and a weapon than they will for a recard when there is no guarantee with the weapon.

Iain

Thanks for the tip, yes they are re-sealed ones, I had to look very carefully on the Bespin one, but it is re-sealed. The Boba Fett one is a poor re-seal though.

I might try and sell the custom uzay stuff, someone might pay two or three quid for a custom headman no? Is it ok to sell reproduced cards/customs if explicitly stated in an auction title?

 

[Joe]

It might be a good idea to post pictures of all the figures from the lot so we can tell you whats what.

If the figures have repro weapons for example you paid for a whole lot of nothing.

 

[itfciain]

Yes, I think with things like the customs that then there is a market. I would try to be as honest as possible and that way you won't have disappointed customers.