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Should grading companies archive/case reproductions?
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<blockquote data-quote="Nick_IoW" data-source="post: 489947" data-attributes="member: 4704"><p>I'm pretty disappointed to be honest. At some point they sat down to discuss it, quite obviously knew what the backlash would be against this - and just went ahead with it anyway.</p><p></p><p>The fact they gave no indication as to whether the figure inside was fake or not must surely be an oversight.</p><p></p><p>The poor wording on their poll was surely intentional. It was claimed only being able to use X amount of characters caused this, which is claptrap. Doesn't require many characters to say "Yes Fakes" and "No Fakes".</p><p></p><p>For the people who are saying "it's better to help identify fakes" - thats also shite. You can just take items out of the case. It does nothing to protect anyone or anything. And the fact the figure isn't mention on the label, as I mentioned, is truly awful. Summed up by the guy selling the CAS VCJ on repro card/bubble - with no indication as to whether or not the VCJ is fake (it is fake btw, but not mentioned) - thereby allowing the owner to pass it off as REAL - due the label not disclosing the figure (cape) as fake.</p><p></p><p>They've championed morality - this move is quite the opposite. Maybe they had good intentions. Maybe they sat down and discussed new ways of bringing in revenue as a business and they somehow thought this would be a cool way of helping the community - but I think they got this wrong, it's really not ptotecting anything. But in any event, and no matter what the intentions towards the community are, it was driven by $$$. I don't think anyone would begrudge them trying to increase revenue or expand - but I don't think this way is healthy for the community and therefore not healthy for them as a business. </p><p></p><p>Some of those that have supported the move by CAS to case up repro items have used the same turgid arguments that Orme uses for his reproduction boxes - "they're labelled as reproductions so its ok". Almost all of those that say this is a good move would no doubt give Orme **** over his ghastly repro boxes. I can't help by think this is hipocritical bullshit.</p><p></p><p>I'm not going to start shouting "i'm never using CAS!" cos I simply don't use grading companies anyway - some people love grading, and that's cool - it has it's place. So I don't really fit into their consumer base. It generally comes down to what their actual customer base, and potential future customers want. </p><p></p><p>I think the lads over at CAS are, for the most part, decent chaps - I don't know them. I am sure they will look into things, and sort out what they could have done better - and come to a conclusion over all this. My opinion is they should scrap it - but it's laregly down to them and what they feel is in their best interests now they have a better idea of the communities opinions. No doubt they have a lot of peoples opinions to sort through given the amount on FB lol.</p><p></p><p>tl;dr - **** idea.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nick_IoW, post: 489947, member: 4704"] I'm pretty disappointed to be honest. At some point they sat down to discuss it, quite obviously knew what the backlash would be against this - and just went ahead with it anyway. The fact they gave no indication as to whether the figure inside was fake or not must surely be an oversight. The poor wording on their poll was surely intentional. It was claimed only being able to use X amount of characters caused this, which is claptrap. Doesn't require many characters to say "Yes Fakes" and "No Fakes". For the people who are saying "it's better to help identify fakes" - thats also shite. You can just take items out of the case. It does nothing to protect anyone or anything. And the fact the figure isn't mention on the label, as I mentioned, is truly awful. Summed up by the guy selling the CAS VCJ on repro card/bubble - with no indication as to whether or not the VCJ is fake (it is fake btw, but not mentioned) - thereby allowing the owner to pass it off as REAL - due the label not disclosing the figure (cape) as fake. They've championed morality - this move is quite the opposite. Maybe they had good intentions. Maybe they sat down and discussed new ways of bringing in revenue as a business and they somehow thought this would be a cool way of helping the community - but I think they got this wrong, it's really not ptotecting anything. But in any event, and no matter what the intentions towards the community are, it was driven by $$$. I don't think anyone would begrudge them trying to increase revenue or expand - but I don't think this way is healthy for the community and therefore not healthy for them as a business. Some of those that have supported the move by CAS to case up repro items have used the same turgid arguments that Orme uses for his reproduction boxes - "they're labelled as reproductions so its ok". Almost all of those that say this is a good move would no doubt give Orme **** over his ghastly repro boxes. I can't help by think this is hipocritical bullshit. I'm not going to start shouting "i'm never using CAS!" cos I simply don't use grading companies anyway - some people love grading, and that's cool - it has it's place. So I don't really fit into their consumer base. It generally comes down to what their actual customer base, and potential future customers want. I think the lads over at CAS are, for the most part, decent chaps - I don't know them. I am sure they will look into things, and sort out what they could have done better - and come to a conclusion over all this. My opinion is they should scrap it - but it's laregly down to them and what they feel is in their best interests now they have a better idea of the communities opinions. No doubt they have a lot of peoples opinions to sort through given the amount on FB lol. tl;dr - **** idea. [/QUOTE]
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