figures and weapons i just found help needed please

[yoda]

Hi guys got these better pictures uploaded, What are the capes from? Are they repro? i also tried the float test again with a different result this time! is it safe to assume the weapons that have sunk are all repro?
i also put up more figures from the same box i found i see a death star droid and a few farmboys and leias i have another box of mint figures with alot of weapons in it. What i would like to know is do i have to check every single weapon? Or was there only certin weapons which were made as fake?
That link Michael Sith put up is really helpful thanks

[poncho]

That luke helmet is not a correct

it looks like someone drilled out the innards of a regular stormtrooper head.

[Ian_C]

That luke helmet is not a correct

it looks like someone drilled out the innards of a regular stormtrooper head.

I agree. The bottom looks way too rough, the shape isn't quite right, and inside the helmet you should see an ejector pin mark (a very small circle from where a pin pushes the part off the die).

No idea what that red cape is from.

Not all weapons float. I hate the float test personally, as too many people assume a sinker is a repro, and I'm sure many legit accessories have been tossed as a result. I wouldn't worry about helmets at all - I think the Luke Stormtrooper is the only one reproduced out there. We know the R2 saber is a repro from the paint chip we saw, but there are legit ones that sink, as with some original sabers too.

Experience is your best bet, as with time, you'll be able to tell a repro mostly just from looking at it, but it takes a while to get there. Until you're comfortable with it, it's studying the minutia on TIG, or posting good pics here and asking.

Best of luck. Even if they were all repro weapons (and many are certainly legit), you'd still have quite a valuable lot there.

Ian

[yoda]

Ok thanks for the help guys that's a pity about the helmet
I think my best bet is not to dump any weapons that sink just yet then. Yes when I do look at the sabres I can see a difference in colour so they are with the helmet.
I will study the reference guide and read up more on them. It's the only way to be sure by getting familiar with what I am looking at. (A bright light under magnification should help)
I will weed out everything that sinks and put close up pictures under a bright light on the forum off them for more help.
Then once I can be sure on them i dont see any point keeping them.
When I bought those figures as a bulk lot I wouldn't have known about the helmet being a repro. I guess that's what is happening to alot of less experienced people like me when buying. The seller may not have known what they wer selling me. Or it was a plan putting in those weapons to catch the less experienced buyers eye. Anyway at least I have some original weapons and some half decent figures that will be good for a lose collection.
Thanks again to anyone who helped me

[yoda]

These are a few more bits I have dug out! Firstly I want to find out is everything here pictured vintage? Obviously the calendar is but is all the rest ok? Its the 3 large figures I am not sure about weather they are vintage or not. Thanks.

This is a carded Han I bought way back. I have now a feeling it is a fake Am I correct?
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[Ian_C]

Yes, everything there is vintage.

The two 12" are 1978 figures, missing all accessories except Vader's cape.

The Yoda is a 1980 Kenner hand puppet. Paint looks good from what is visible. Does it still have the rooted hair?

You've also got a Tauntaun missing reins, and what looks like an empty Dewback box (obviously).

The Han is hard to tell from the blurry picture. The punch looks off, the colors don't look right, and the footer doesn't look legit either. Is a US Kenner 12 back? An easy tell for US 12-backs is on the right of the card, on the racetrack border just below the Luke/Leia image. If it's a 12-back and has a * there, it's fake, as that symbol didn't show up until 20/21 backs, yet many repro 12 backs have it. I have a hunch it's a repro, but better pics (less blurry, show the whole card front and back) will help.

Ian

[yoda]

Ok thanks for that help lan
The drewback is in the box. The bubble on the carded han looks very fresh and clean. I will take more pictures of it. My gut feeling is that it's a fake but better to be sure.
I dug out a few other bits if your familiar with cards. I put them up on the valuation thread if you get a chance sometime to have a look

[Ian_C]

I saw the cardbacks, but not sure how to value loose cardbacks. Most I believe are 5-10, but depends on rarity and desirability.

Ian

[yoda]

Ok no worries thanks alot, Glad those other bits are vintage. I thought the Yoda figure was a cover for bubble bath or something I never expected it to be a vintage hand puppet ! I have alot to learn yet.

[yoda]

I have now taken a few more pictures of that carded Han. Hopefully we will know from these pictures if it's fake or not.
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[yoda]

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[Ian_C]

Sorry it's been a while. I've not been on much the last couple of weeks.

The Han is absolutely a repro.

The fonts, image sharpness, and color are all off. Also, on the right side, the Luke/Leia logo, you see the TM? Under that is a * symbol. That symbol does not appear on Kenner 12 backs at all (it is on 20 backs though).

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

Ian

[Pomse2001]

Not that I am an moc expert, but it looks wrong so I would say repro

[SAVORY100]

Yep the Han MOC looks like a fake to me too.
on a better note though, the first picture is awesome! Love that mass of figures

[yoda]

Yep the Han MOC looks like a fake to me too.
on a better note though, the first picture is awesome! Love that mass of figures

Ok thanks savory I wasn't sure but i had a gut feeling I wasn't that lucky thats the figure way back on another thread i spoke about. I had said my brother told me he had found a carded han in my stuff by mistake. I must have bought that a few years ago I couldn't remember what figure he was talking about