Disney already done that for meGrant_C wrote:Let go of the past.
Kill it, if you have too.

Disney already done that for meGrant_C wrote:Let go of the past.
Kill it, if you have too.
My theory is that they’ve gone out of their way to quash every fan theory, and keep us guessing. The trailer edits seemed nothing to do with the film. From the trailer it looked like Kylo was the person who kills Leia, nope. They were heavy into editing when she died. I thought the scene wear she drifts back in from space was genius as I’m sure most of us thought “ok, so that’s how they’ve handled it, but wait, no still alive, wow”.edd_jedi wrote:To my surprise I really enjoyed it! I thought it was better than TFA or R1. Of course there were some bits I didn't like, I still think Kylo Ren is a bit wet but I thought Rey was much better in this one. Luke was good. I thought Leia's 'coming back from the dead' was a bit inappropriate, surprised they left that in. But the effects were brilliant, I especially enjoyed the opening space battle.
One thing I didn't understand - who was the boy in the last scene with Jedi powers? Are we supposed to know?
^ThisMr-shifter wrote:I have been thinking about this film more and more and have come to the conclusion that the problem with Star Wars fans these days is Star Wars fans themselves.
The first three films spanned 6 years. The first was a stand-alone movie. Lucas couldn’t have known wether he was going to get to make any more. Esb was dark, and a lead up to the return of the Jedi, with a lot of backstory thrown in. There were fans of the film, but normal people. Mostly children, but many adults as well. But just normal people. Lucas could do whatever he wanted, because they were his. Kill off tarkin, bring in the emperor. No one gave a shit about who he was or his backstory. It was fine. He was just a new character. Rotj. Rehash the Death Star. That’s ok because people just wanted more.
Then came the fan. 40 years of fandom, and analysing over and over what has been seen. The dawn of the eu, the continuation of the universe all building up to where we are now.
But these hardcore fans are no longer willing to just accept snoke as a character, nor Rey as a force user with no background. Everything needs explaining. Everything must fit in with where they believe it should fit in and it is not possible anymore to just make up a story.
Have we become so inflexible based on the fact that we have been living in the past 40 years that we are unable to open our minds to new ideas and perhaps let this thing go in a direction we didn’t expect it to, or does it have to follow whatever format we previously decided it should.
All you guys with kids saying him much they loved it. These are the same eyes we experienced the ot with.
This film is by far my favourite outside of the ot. My views on the ot will never change because it was an intrinsic part of my childhood. The films represent a time of my life for me, just as certain places and music does. But this is the best thing I have seen based in the Star Wars universe since. I now can’t wait for 9.
Totally agreeBadMotivator wrote:I think my problem with the movie is that it gives Luke such a kicking that I just don't want to like it.
It could be the best movie ever, but because of the way it treats my old friend, I'll always hold a grudge against it.
Fortunately, it gives me ample reasons to call it a bag of shit
Yeah I'm going to give it a second shot. I've heard a lot of people say it gets better with more viewings.Dark vador wrote:Seen it a second time and loved it more then the first some scenes takes some understanding like the selflessness of luke till the very end glad I seen it a second to see it better understand more and appreciate.
Excellent post and something that has made me think differently. Definately food for thought.Mr-shifter wrote:I have been thinking about this film more and more and have come to the conclusion that the problem with Star Wars fans these days is Star Wars fans themselves.
The first three films spanned 6 years. The first was a stand-alone movie. Lucas couldn’t have known wether he was going to get to make any more. Esb was dark, and a lead up to the return of the Jedi, with a lot of backstory thrown in. There were fans of the film, but normal people. Mostly children, but many adults as well. But just normal people. Lucas could do whatever he wanted, because they were his. Kill off tarkin, bring in the emperor. No one gave a shit about who he was or his backstory. It was fine. He was just a new character. Rotj. Rehash the Death Star. That’s ok because people just wanted more.
Then came the fan. 40 years of fandom, and analysing over and over what has been seen. The dawn of the eu, the continuation of the universe all building up to where we are now.
But these hardcore fans are no longer willing to just accept snoke as a character, nor Rey as a force user with no background. Everything needs explaining. Everything must fit in with where they believe it should fit in and it is not possible anymore to just make up a story.
Have we become so inflexible based on the fact that we have been living in the past 40 years that we are unable to open our minds to new ideas and perhaps let this thing go in a direction we didn’t expect it to, or does it have to follow whatever format we previously decided it should.
All you guys with kids saying him much they loved it. These are the same eyes we experienced the ot with.
This film is by far my favourite outside of the ot. My views on the ot will never change because it was an intrinsic part of my childhood. The films represent a time of my life for me, just as certain places and music does. But this is the best thing I have seen based in the Star Wars universe since. I now can’t wait for 9.
IMO that usually means something is excellent, kind of like The Darkness when I first started hearing their music I really didn't like it but once I heard it enough on the radio it suddenly 'clicked' and I absolutely loved them more than anything else, and with them people either truly hate them or really, really love them.theforceuk wrote:One thing’s for sure I don’t think their has been a Star Wars film that has devided opinion like this. At the moment it’s looking like a marmite film.