SWTOTW, Week 16, 2018, Part 2/2 Land Of The Jawas Action Playset

Here you can browse the popular 'toy of the week' threads which focus on particular characters or vehicles.
User avatar
Pomse2001
Grand Master
Grand Master
Posts: 14064
Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:35 pm
Location: Denmark
Contact:

SWTOTW, Week 16, 2018, Part 2/2 Land Of The Jawas Action Playset

Post by Pomse2001 »

Land Of The Jawas Action Playset:
aa.jpg
aa.jpg (54.8 KiB) Viewed 764 times
I got my first and only Jawa Action Playset here on the forum in 2015 when I bought it from another dane who was selling his collection.
I think it is a great playset and I like they used cardboard and plastic for playsets. Any idea why they did not make any new cardboard playsets for ROTJ ?
sand.jpg
sand.jpg (99.05 KiB) Viewed 764 times
User avatar
Snaketibe
SWFUK Supporter
SWFUK Supporter
Posts: 4439
Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:27 pm
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 16, 2018, Part 2/2

Post by Snaketibe »

OK Lars, since you didn't want to separate the Kenner and Palitoy versions of The Land of the Jawas playsets, here are my pair.

For anyone unfamiliar with the differences between the 2 sets, it's not just the packaging that's different. Every single aspect of the Palitoy version is different to the Kenner one:

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ Kenner: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Palitoy:

Base: _ _ _ _ Hard plastic, moulded cave, action features. _ _ _ Flimsy plastic, no cave or action features, card-backed. A different mould entirely.

Card parts: _ Thick, strong corrugated cardboard. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Thin, single thickness uncorrugated cardboard.

Lift: _ _ _ _ _ 2-part yellow flat platform + 2 brown side rails. _ 2-part long black lift that slides within itself. A completely different design.

Accessories: _ Escape pod, action pegs that fit in the base. _ _ Jawa figure, no escape pod, 2 figure stands, separate action lever.
Kenner LOTJ - 01.jpg
Kenner LOTJ - 01.jpg (154.95 KiB) Viewed 750 times
Kenner LOTJ - 02.jpg
Kenner LOTJ - 02.jpg (153.1 KiB) Viewed 750 times
Kenner LOTJ - 03.jpg
Kenner LOTJ - 03.jpg (95.37 KiB) Viewed 750 times
Kenner LOTJ - 04.jpg
Kenner LOTJ - 04.jpg (189.48 KiB) Viewed 750 times
Palitoy LOTJ - 01.jpg
Palitoy LOTJ - 01.jpg (146.9 KiB) Viewed 750 times
Palitoy LOTJ - 02.jpg
Palitoy LOTJ - 02.jpg (129.97 KiB) Viewed 750 times
Palitoy LOTJ - 03.jpg
Palitoy LOTJ - 03.jpg (126 KiB) Viewed 750 times
Palitoy LOTJ - 04.jpg
Palitoy LOTJ - 04.jpg (186.7 KiB) Viewed 750 times
X Palitoy & Kenner LOTJ Cardboard Comparison - 01.jpg
X Palitoy & Kenner LOTJ Cardboard Comparison - 01.jpg (86.06 KiB) Viewed 750 times
User avatar
Mini99
SWFUK Supporter
SWFUK Supporter
Posts: 4063
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:43 pm

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 16, 2018, Part 2/2

Post by Mini99 »

Thanks for that great concise review on both playsets.
I knew that they were different, but as I don’t collect these had never realised how different the two sets were.
I assume that the Kenner one was “better” quality as they would not have got away with a cheaper set in the USA?
User avatar
Snaketibe
SWFUK Supporter
SWFUK Supporter
Posts: 4439
Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:27 pm
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 16, 2018, Part 2/2

Post by Snaketibe »

Mini99 wrote:Thanks for that great concise review on both playsets.
I knew that they were different, but as I don’t collect these had never realised how different the two sets were.
I assume that the Kenner one was “better” quality as they would not have got away with a cheaper set in the USA?
Thanks :-)

I believe the story goes that when Palitoy won the UK license, they wanted to reduce costs on the toy manufacturing. So for the Land of the Jawas, Cantina and Droid Factory sets, all three were given significant make-unders! ;-) Palitoy scrapped the sturdy hard plastic bases in each case and replaced them with thin, flimsy blown plastic which dents and damages really easily. They used cheaper cardboard, less plastic on the accessories (the Palitoy Cantina doors are cardboard instead of plastic like the Kenner version, for example), and generally saved themselves some manufacturing costs! And the results are some very different toys.

Of course the real win came with the Death Star. The Kenner version was almost entirely plastic, so Palitoy had to put on their thinking caps and conjured up what in my humble opinion is the best toy made in the entire line, and one of the best toys ever made full stop in their cardboard Death Star. Brilliantly simple, yet utterly effective; a masterclass in toy design and playability, all brought about by a desire to cut costs! :-D
User avatar
Mini99
SWFUK Supporter
SWFUK Supporter
Posts: 4063
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:43 pm

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 16, 2018, Part 2/2

Post by Mini99 »

Ah, ok that old chestnut....how to save money!
Well at least that has created two very different playsets to collect.
Thanks for the info.
User avatar
Pomse2001
Grand Master
Grand Master
Posts: 14064
Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:35 pm
Location: Denmark
Contact:

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 16, 2018, Part 2/2

Post by Pomse2001 »

Snaketibe wrote:OK Lars, since you didn't want to separate the Kenner and Palitoy versions of The Land of the Jawas playsets, here are my pair.

For anyone unfamiliar with the differences between the 2 sets, it's not just the packaging that's different. Every single aspect of the Palitoy version is different to the Kenner one:

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ Kenner: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Palitoy:

Base: _ _ _ _ Hard plastic, moulded cave, action features. _ _ _ Flimsy plastic, no cave or action features, card-backed. A different mould entirely.

Card parts: _ Thick, strong corrugated cardboard. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Thin, single thickness uncorrugated cardboard.

Lift: _ _ _ _ _ 2-part yellow flat platform + 2 brown side rails. _ 2-part long black lift that slides within itself. A completely different design.

Accessories: _ Escape pod, action pegs that fit in the base. _ _ Jawa figure, no escape pod, 2 figure stands, separate action lever.

Kenner LOTJ - 01.jpg
Kenner LOTJ - 02.jpg
Kenner LOTJ - 03.jpg
Kenner LOTJ - 04.jpg
Palitoy LOTJ - 01.jpg
Palitoy LOTJ - 02.jpg
Palitoy LOTJ - 03.jpg
Palitoy LOTJ - 04.jpg
X Palitoy & Kenner LOTJ Cardboard Comparison - 01.jpg
Wow they look fantastic, I really love that palitoy playset 8) Now I also want such a playset :D thanks for all the great pictures so I know what to look for when I choose to buy and hunt the palitoy set :wink:
User avatar
Pomse2001
Grand Master
Grand Master
Posts: 14064
Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:35 pm
Location: Denmark
Contact:

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 16, 2018, Part 2/2

Post by Pomse2001 »

Snaketibe wrote:
Mini99 wrote:Thanks for that great concise review on both playsets.
I knew that they were different, but as I don’t collect these had never realised how different the two sets were.
I assume that the Kenner one was “better” quality as they would not have got away with a cheaper set in the USA?
Thanks :-)

I believe the story goes that when Palitoy won the UK license, they wanted to reduce costs on the toy manufacturing. So for the Land of the Jawas, Cantina and Droid Factory sets, all three were given significant make-unders! ;-) Palitoy scrapped the sturdy hard plastic bases in each case and replaced them with thin, flimsy blown plastic which dents and damages really easily. They used cheaper cardboard, less plastic on the accessories (the Palitoy Cantina doors are cardboard instead of plastic like the Kenner version, for example), and generally saved themselves some manufacturing costs! And the results are some very different toys.

Of course the real win came with the Death Star. The Kenner version was almost entirely plastic, so Palitoy had to put on their thinking caps and conjured up what in my humble opinion is the best toy made in the entire line, and one of the best toys ever made full stop in their cardboard Death Star. Brilliantly simple, yet utterly effective; a masterclass in toy design and playability, all brought about by a desire to cut costs! :-D
Thanks for the great info about why palitoy changed the toy so much :wink:

Do you know how much a palitoy land of the jawas playset complete with box and instruction cost today ? :?

I agree the palitoy death star was a masterclass, also why I have not bought the kenner death star yet. I like the palitoy a lot more than I like the kenner death star.

Any idea why meccano and toltoys also choose to make the palitoy death star and not the kenner ? was it also about the cost or did they more like the palitoy death star as we do ? :?
User avatar
spoons
SWFUK Supporter
SWFUK Supporter
Posts: 8288
Joined: Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:01 am
Contact:

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 16, 2018, Part 2/2

Post by spoons »

Pomse2001 wrote:
Snaketibe wrote:
Mini99 wrote:Thanks for that great concise review on both playsets.
I knew that they were different, but as I don’t collect these had never realised how different the two sets were.
I assume that the Kenner one was “better” quality as they would not have got away with a cheaper set in the USA?
Thanks :-)

I believe the story goes that when Palitoy won the UK license, they wanted to reduce costs on the toy manufacturing. So for the Land of the Jawas, Cantina and Droid Factory sets, all three were given significant make-unders! ;-) Palitoy scrapped the sturdy hard plastic bases in each case and replaced them with thin, flimsy blown plastic which dents and damages really easily. They used cheaper cardboard, less plastic on the accessories (the Palitoy Cantina doors are cardboard instead of plastic like the Kenner version, for example), and generally saved themselves some manufacturing costs! And the results are some very different toys.

Of course the real win came with the Death Star. The Kenner version was almost entirely plastic, so Palitoy had to put on their thinking caps and conjured up what in my humble opinion is the best toy made in the entire line, and one of the best toys ever made full stop in their cardboard Death Star. Brilliantly simple, yet utterly effective; a masterclass in toy design and playability, all brought about by a desire to cut costs! :-D
Thanks for the great info about why palitoy changed the toy so much :wink:

Do you know how much a palitoy land of the jawas playset complete with box and instruction cost today ? :?

I agree the palitoy death star was a masterclass, also why I have not bought the kenner death star yet. I like the palitoy a lot more than I like the kenner death star.

Any idea why meccano and toltoys also choose to make the palitoy death star and not the kenner ? was it also about the cost or did they more like the palitoy death star as we do ? :?
The world and the UK was really hit by the 1979 oil crisis so plastic became very expensive. Palitoy made many cost cutting changes for that reason with the land of the jawas and the death star being evidence of a historic event.

Action Man was also redesigned at this time and made with a thinner plastic.

I'd guess with historically cheaper oil prices in the US they were less inclined to scrimp on the toys

Great comparison piece Jeremy!
http://www.vintagestarwarsdiecast.co.uk for all your vintage die cast needs
User avatar
Mini99
SWFUK Supporter
SWFUK Supporter
Posts: 4063
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:43 pm

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 16, 2018, Part 2/2

Post by Mini99 »

Another good point Andy.
User avatar
Pomse2001
Grand Master
Grand Master
Posts: 14064
Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:35 pm
Location: Denmark
Contact:

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 16, 2018, Part 2/2

Post by Pomse2001 »

spoons wrote:
Pomse2001 wrote:
Snaketibe wrote: Thanks :-)

I believe the story goes that when Palitoy won the UK license, they wanted to reduce costs on the toy manufacturing. So for the Land of the Jawas, Cantina and Droid Factory sets, all three were given significant make-unders! ;-) Palitoy scrapped the sturdy hard plastic bases in each case and replaced them with thin, flimsy blown plastic which dents and damages really easily. They used cheaper cardboard, less plastic on the accessories (the Palitoy Cantina doors are cardboard instead of plastic like the Kenner version, for example), and generally saved themselves some manufacturing costs! And the results are some very different toys.

Of course the real win came with the Death Star. The Kenner version was almost entirely plastic, so Palitoy had to put on their thinking caps and conjured up what in my humble opinion is the best toy made in the entire line, and one of the best toys ever made full stop in their cardboard Death Star. Brilliantly simple, yet utterly effective; a masterclass in toy design and playability, all brought about by a desire to cut costs! :-D
Thanks for the great info about why palitoy changed the toy so much :wink:

Do you know how much a palitoy land of the jawas playset complete with box and instruction cost today ? :?

I agree the palitoy death star was a masterclass, also why I have not bought the kenner death star yet. I like the palitoy a lot more than I like the kenner death star.

Any idea why meccano and toltoys also choose to make the palitoy death star and not the kenner ? was it also about the cost or did they more like the palitoy death star as we do ? :?
The world and the UK was really hit by the 1979 oil crisis so plastic became very expensive. Palitoy made many cost cutting changes for that reason with the land of the jawas and the death star being evidence of a historic event.

Action Man was also redesigned at this time and made with a thinner plastic.

I'd guess with historically cheaper oil prices in the US they were less inclined to scrimp on the toys

Great comparison piece Jeremy!
thanks andy for the info, I have forgot all about the oil crisis :oops:
User avatar
Snaketibe
SWFUK Supporter
SWFUK Supporter
Posts: 4439
Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:27 pm
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 16, 2018, Part 2/2

Post by Snaketibe »

Pomse2001 wrote:Do you know how much a palitoy land of the jawas playset complete with box and instruction cost today ? :?
If you don't mind the box not being perfect, you should be able to find one on eBay for around £200 - £250, if you're patient. Several complete boxed ones usually come up for sale each year, but they're certainly not common, so you will need to check for them regularly (of course Facebook groups probably have them as well, but I don't do Facebook, so I can't comment).

However, if you're after a mint condition one, you may be in for a very long wait and a very expensive bill at the end of your search! The Palitoy box was probably a bit too big for the toy, and definitely can't be described as sturdy. It's also a larger box than the Palitoy Cantina and Droid Factory boxes, and it gets crushed and damaged really easily as a consequence, so finding a really good condition one, let alone a mint one, can be extremely difficult.
User avatar
Snaketibe
SWFUK Supporter
SWFUK Supporter
Posts: 4439
Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:27 pm
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 16, 2018, Part 2/2

Post by Snaketibe »

spoons wrote:Great comparison piece Jeremy!
Thanks, Andy :-). I'll gladly do similar ones for the Palitoy Cantina and Droid Factory when they come up on Toy of the Week... Unless someone else beats me to it, of course!
User avatar
Pomse2001
Grand Master
Grand Master
Posts: 14064
Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:35 pm
Location: Denmark
Contact:

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 16, 2018, Part 2/2

Post by Pomse2001 »

Snaketibe wrote:
Pomse2001 wrote:Do you know how much a palitoy land of the jawas playset complete with box and instruction cost today ? :?
If you don't mind the box not being perfect, you should be able to find one on eBay for around £200 - £250, if you're patient. Several complete boxed ones usually come up for sale each year, but they're certainly not common, so you will need to check for them regularly (of course Facebook groups probably have them as well, but I don't do Facebook, so I can't comment).

However, if you're after a mint condition one, you may be in for a very long wait and a very expensive bill at the end of your search! The Palitoy box was probably a bit too big for the toy, and definitely can't be described as sturdy. It's also a larger box than the Palitoy Cantina and Droid Factory boxes, and it gets crushed and damaged really easily as a consequence, so finding a really good condition one, let alone a mint one, can be extremely difficult.
Thanks for the info about the price :wink: I am very patient :lol: I also don't do facebook :lol:

It does not need to be mint, it does only need to be ok not mint and not a beater :wink:
User avatar
Pomse2001
Grand Master
Grand Master
Posts: 14064
Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:35 pm
Location: Denmark
Contact:

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 16, 2018, Part 2/2

Post by Pomse2001 »

spoons wrote:
Pomse2001 wrote:
Snaketibe wrote: Thanks :-)

I believe the story goes that when Palitoy won the UK license, they wanted to reduce costs on the toy manufacturing. So for the Land of the Jawas, Cantina and Droid Factory sets, all three were given significant make-unders! ;-) Palitoy scrapped the sturdy hard plastic bases in each case and replaced them with thin, flimsy blown plastic which dents and damages really easily. They used cheaper cardboard, less plastic on the accessories (the Palitoy Cantina doors are cardboard instead of plastic like the Kenner version, for example), and generally saved themselves some manufacturing costs! And the results are some very different toys.

Of course the real win came with the Death Star. The Kenner version was almost entirely plastic, so Palitoy had to put on their thinking caps and conjured up what in my humble opinion is the best toy made in the entire line, and one of the best toys ever made full stop in their cardboard Death Star. Brilliantly simple, yet utterly effective; a masterclass in toy design and playability, all brought about by a desire to cut costs! :-D
Thanks for the great info about why palitoy changed the toy so much :wink:

Do you know how much a palitoy land of the jawas playset complete with box and instruction cost today ? :?

I agree the palitoy death star was a masterclass, also why I have not bought the kenner death star yet. I like the palitoy a lot more than I like the kenner death star.

Any idea why meccano and toltoys also choose to make the palitoy death star and not the kenner ? was it also about the cost or did they more like the palitoy death star as we do ? :?
The world and the UK was really hit by the 1979 oil crisis so plastic became very expensive. Palitoy made many cost cutting changes for that reason with the land of the jawas and the death star being evidence of a historic event.

Action Man was also redesigned at this time and made with a thinner plastic.

I'd guess with historically cheaper oil prices in the US they were less inclined to scrimp on the toys

Great comparison piece Jeremy!
So andy where is your jawa playset ? :D
User avatar
spoons
SWFUK Supporter
SWFUK Supporter
Posts: 8288
Joined: Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:01 am
Contact:

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 16, 2018, Part 2/2

Post by spoons »

ha ha - I dont have too many playsets, but would love either of these
http://www.vintagestarwarsdiecast.co.uk for all your vintage die cast needs
Post Reply