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SWTOTW, Week 33, 2019, Part 2/2 Darth Vader

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:54 pm
by Pomse2001
Darth Vader:
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Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 33, 2019, Part 2/2

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:26 pm
by Snaketibe
So it's finally time for the Dark Lord of the Sith, is it Lars? :-)

As I have mentioned many times previously (apologies for the repetition and also the repetition... wot? :D ), what appeals to me personally with loose figure variants are ones which are visually different from one another. There are a lot of Darth Vader variants to be had, but not very many of them are different enough to interest me. However, the exception for me has always been the Takara variant.

As many of you will know, when Star Wars figures first came out in the 70's, for some strange reason in Japan, Takara (the company with the toy license there), made their own unique sculpts of the Stormtrooper, C-3PO and Darth Vader figures. They are all very close to their Kenner counterparts, but they are all also completely unique sculpts, with different bodies and heads. There are many small differences to be found between them, however the most obvious one is the fact that unlike the sonic-welded Kenner figures, the 3 Takara sculpts are held together by a screw in the centre of their backs. And this leads to a problem, because whilst this is very easy to spot on the Stormtrooper and C-3PO figures, Darth Vader's cape completely covers the screw, and since for added difficulty the Takara Vader sculpt is also the closest to its Kenner counterpart out of the three Takara figures, it can make spotting a Takara Vader figure extremely difficult. Add to that the fact that the unique Takara sculpt was only released in Japan, and only saw a limited release even there before being replaced by the Kenner sculpt, and it means the Takara Vader can be an extremely tough variant to track down!

The Japanese sculptors did a very good job of copying the Kenner version, but it isn't a perfect copy, so what are the differences between the Kenner and Takara Darth Vaders apart from the obscured screw? Well for starters, the Takara version is a fraction shorter. It also has a slightly more rounded top to its helmet, and the figure generally has a slightly more shiny finish (at least when new) to the black plastic. Also the cape is very stiff with a smooth inside and a rough textured outside. Lastly, the COO clearly reads 'JAPAN'.

Anyway, here are my two loose ones. In all photos, the Takara variant is on the right. Perhaps it's the black plastic, or maybe my camera, but photographing the surface details of the figures can be quite tricky, so I have included multiple shots in some cases.

Lastly, I also have a Palitoy 12-back reseal.
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Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 33, 2019, Part 2/2

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:59 pm
by Mini99
Really nice Palitoy Vader. 8)
Great figure and an appealing card back, the yellow behind the figure really does “pop” against the black figure.
Looking for a Star Wars one to complete the card back run.
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Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 33, 2019, Part 2/2

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:05 pm
by Snaketibe
Mini99 wrote:Really nice Palitoy Vader. 8)
Great figure and an appealing card back, the yellow behind the figure really does “pop” against the black figure.
Looking for a Star Wars one to complete the card back run.

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Thank you. Those are three really nice MOCs in return! :-)

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 33, 2019, Part 2/2

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:59 pm
by Ruby2511
Here's mine :D
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Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 33, 2019, Part 2/2

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:38 pm
by Snaketibe
Ruby2511 wrote:Here's mine :D

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Nice example. Thanks for sharing :-)

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 33, 2019, Part 2/2

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:43 pm
by TheJabbaWookie
Great info on the Takara, Jeremy. Super MOCs Nick. Nice example Russ.

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 33, 2019, Part 2/2

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:57 pm
by spoons
A good selection of Vaders chaps, here's my two pack to compliment them. I've had this for 10 years or so and it still has to be one of my favourite items in my collection
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Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 33, 2019, Part 2/2

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:22 am
by Snaketibe
spoons wrote:A good selection of Vaders chaps, here's my two pack to compliment them. I've had this for 10 years or so and it still has to be one of my favourite items in my collection

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What a terrific 2-pack! Thanks for sharing it :-)

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 33, 2019, Part 2/2

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:13 am
by Mini99
spoons wrote:A good selection of Vaders chaps, here's my two pack to compliment them. I've had this for 10 years or so and it still has to be one of my favourite items in my collection

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I have never seen a two pack in that sort of condition, amazing....and with two main characters!

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 33, 2019, Part 2/2

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:19 am
by spoons
Thanks both, it is a beauty. The only issue is the tip of Vader’s saver has snapped off and is stuck in his cape.

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 33, 2019, Part 2/2

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:44 pm
by TheJabbaWookie
Here are mine:
L-R: Hong Kong CoO; Blank Raised Bar; PBP (smooth cape); PBP (textured cape with one side smooth matt); PBP (textured cape with one side shiny

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 33, 2019, Part 2/2

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:40 pm
by Snaketibe
TheJabbaWookie wrote:Here are mine:
L-R: Hong Kong CoO; Blank Raised Bar; PBP (smooth cape); PBP (textured cape with one side smooth matt); PBP (textured cape with one side shiny
Nice collection with lots of PBP goodness :-)

Thanks for sharing.

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 33, 2019, Part 2/2

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:39 pm
by Pomse2001
Snaketibe wrote:So it's finally time for the Dark Lord of the Sith, is it Lars? :-)

As I have mentioned many times previously (apologies for the repetition and also the repetition... wot? :D ), what appeals to me personally with loose figure variants are ones which are visually different from one another. There are a lot of Darth Vader variants to be had, but not very many of them are different enough to interest me. However, the exception for me has always been the Takara variant.

As many of you will know, when Star Wars figures first came out in the 70's, for some strange reason in Japan, Takara (the company with the toy license there), made their own unique sculpts of the Stormtrooper, C-3PO and Darth Vader figures. They are all very close to their Kenner counterparts, but they are all also completely unique sculpts, with different bodies and heads. There are many small differences to be found between them, however the most obvious one is the fact that unlike the sonic-welded Kenner figures, the 3 Takara sculpts are held together by a screw in the centre of their backs. And this leads to a problem, because whilst this is very easy to spot on the Stormtrooper and C-3PO figures, Darth Vader's cape completely covers the screw, and since for added difficulty the Takara Vader sculpt is also the closest to its Kenner counterpart out of the three Takara figures, it can make spotting a Takara Vader figure extremely difficult. Add to that the fact that the unique Takara sculpt was only released in Japan, and only saw a limited release even there before being replaced by the Kenner sculpt, and it means the Takara Vader can be an extremely tough variant to track down!

The Japanese sculptors did a very good job of copying the Kenner version, but it isn't a perfect copy, so what are the differences between the Kenner and Takara Darth Vaders apart from the obscured screw? Well for starters, the Takara version is a fraction shorter. It also has a slightly more rounded top to its helmet, and the figure generally has a slightly more shiny finish (at least when new) to the black plastic. Also the cape is very stiff with a smooth inside and a rough textured outside. Lastly, the COO clearly reads 'JAPAN'.

Anyway, here are my two loose ones. In all photos, the Takara variant is on the right. Perhaps it's the black plastic, or maybe my camera, but photographing the surface details of the figures can be quite tricky, so I have included multiple shots in some cases.

Lastly, I also have a Palitoy 12-back reseal.

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As always thanks for the great info about variants and this time a lot of great info about the vader takara figure. 2 beautiful variants that you have and a fantastic reaseal with the awesome palitoy logo on the card :D

Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 33, 2019, Part 2/2

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:43 pm
by Pomse2001
Mini99 wrote:Really nice Palitoy Vader. 8)
Great figure and an appealing card back, the yellow behind the figure really does “pop” against the black figure.
Looking for a Star Wars one to complete the card back run.

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wow nice lot of moc, one the best cardbacks for me in the star wars line is darth vader cardback 8)