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All sounds very promising. Looking forward to the show airing
Maulster79 said:It's not about TT, its about a Mr X.
Palitoy78 said:I think this segment will cause huge damage to a collecting genre which has already been on the ropes for a while. I know of someone who turned down an interview for this and he also feels it will do more damage than good. Im not saying its a bad thing, but the only people who will gain from this is con artists and the like. The word will be out that ANYONE can be fooled and there is nothing we can do about it. All it will do is confuse collectors-if AFA and UKG were fooled-what hope is there?
Its all well and good getting on tv and such, but seriously think of the consequences-this could well be a very, very damaging thing....
Palitoy78 said:I think this segment will cause huge damage to a collecting genre which has already been on the ropes for a while. I know of someone who turned down an interview for this and he also feels it will do more damage than good. Im not saying its a bad thing, but the only people who will gain from this is con artists and the like. The word will be out that ANYONE can be fooled and there is nothing we can do about it. All it will do is confuse collectors-if AFA and UKG were fooled-what hope is there?
Its all well and good getting on tv and such, but seriously think of the consequences-this could well be a very, very damaging thing....
Hothrebel said:Well said Jason
Joe said:Hothrebel said:Well said Jason
+1
spoons said:Not sure about that Joe - Action Fraud seem to be taking it seriously.
I got a promising email from them the other day.
I won't post the details here but the police are taking this seriously
mr_palitoy said:Palitoy78 said:I think this segment will cause huge damage to a collecting genre which has already been on the ropes for a while. I know of someone who turned down an interview for this and he also feels it will do more damage than good. Im not saying its a bad thing, but the only people who will gain from this is con artists and the like. The word will be out that ANYONE can be fooled and there is nothing we can do about it. All it will do is confuse collectors-if AFA and UKG were fooled-what hope is there?
Its all well and good getting on tv and such, but seriously think of the consequences-this could well be a very, very damaging thing....
Tbh, the damage was done a long time ago when Toni decided to start glueing cards together. It's all about damage limitation now.
I've done my very best to ring fence the affected pieces and document how to spot them on my cardback guide.
I had my reservations about this piece too, the community thought it was a good idea, and this was going to be filmed, with or without my participation,
so thought it better to be involved than not. Post filming, I can see that there is good that is going to come from this. The BBC are going to do a full
investigation and they prosecute where possible. They have the resources to do that, we as individual collectors dont have the time and money to do that.
The damage to AFA/UKG's rep has been done and we cannot ignore that. We need to move forward and get them to acknowledge that in their databases
and offer free regrading services for affected pieces.
Just this weekend, I saw 2 UKG graded Toni cards being sold by Space Junk Toys at LFCC, who refused to acknowledge there was an issue, and that I didn't
know what I was talking about.
In terms of the airing of the film. it's going to be 8 mins long on Fake Britain, probably during the day and also in an evening showing. I think you may
be estimating the reach it will have. It may well bring new collectors into the community, or people looking in their lofts etc. All publicity, is
good publicity. The damage to the collecting community is already done for those who buy and sell these pieces.
Take care, things will get better in this collecting space.
cheers Jason