The Claim: Jeff has been selling fakes with malicious intent and defrauding buyers.
All we have is that Jeff has been selling baggies, of which an unknown amount is fake.
The podcast interview has giving you 90 minutes' worth of information from the other side. Plenty of information there surely to highlight inconsistencies with an investigation that has been going on for apparently a long time.
You got Jeffs response fast tracked. Those 90 minutes could have taken days to write. You have a ton of information now to show the rest of us of this malicious intent to deceive.
I agree, it seems strange that Jeff is not techsavia enough to have a forum response. I also feel the same that Frank has the same issue.
I don't know why you don't just release all the information you have. Show the emails and sales.
The interview came because I called Jeff. He stated that he had received messages from multiple buyers requesting a full refund on all baggies going back years. Totalling thousands and thousands of pounds. He stated that he had either been threatened directly or had read threats online. I can't remember.
What was clear was that Jeff needed a response ASAP. I know that he is not part of this community, and as far as I know, his main support in the community is on holiday in Las Vegas and is in no position to give him the support he needs. Unlike the other side you have a massive social network with collectors who are willing destroy Jeff before he has even given a response. His Paypal account has also been blocked which has also caused extra stress in issuing refunds.
I happy to be convinced that Jeff has been selling fakes as an act of fraud, the reason I haven't so far is that the investigation has failed to show any evidence apart from he has sold fakes amongst 100's of deals.
I have to ask, why would he sell fakes, knowing that collectors could get them graded? Why would he bring fakes to Farthest From and allow specialists to go through 150 baggies and take as many photos as they want.
The sting operation at FF, well not much of a sting as word had got out that your investigation was happening, and I believe apart from Marc Hockley and Jeff, collectors knew about it. 150 baggies were checked, and I believe 3 were questionable. Those were allowed to be photographed. Any more information on this?
Another reason I'm not convinced is that I have met Jeff a couple times. I'm sorry Jeff if your reading this, but in all honesty, I found him dizzy, incompetent and a complete scatterbrain. I struggle to believe that he dresses himself in the morning. Even this week he was met to send me a palitoy baggie in the post. I received a Kenner mailer. (I would to trade if anyone has an Ackbar).
I also found him to be open, friendly, happy - so open we can all go to his house and look at his collection- something I have not afforded anyone on this board. I don't see the malicious intent. How he came across is who he is.
He should not be selling baggies. I spoke to him yesterday and he has suggested getting UKG to get involved and perhaps getting everything he sells graded first.
I don't why an interception wasn't made months ago at least, would have saved a ton of sales. He seems quite happy to let people in. I don't know why collectors don't like the fact that Jeff was given a platform to defend himself. I don't know why no one met him or went to his home. I don't know why the claim is not reduced to a warning that Jeff is either knowingly or unknowingly selling fakes.
Going back to Toytoni. There was a ton of stuff that happened that wasn't on the boards. There was a lot going on with actionfraud, the police and the BBC that has never been disclosed. In fact, it was real close to provide undeniable proof that the claims were true. I spent so much in the eye of that storm, I wanted to leave collecting by the end of it. I don't get that here.
So far, all I believe is that Jeff is a complete dofus that has been selling fakes amongst a ton of legit baggies.
I would be grateful if you could provide evidence of Jeffs malicious intent and defrauding buyers. I'm a lot closer to people who have accused Jeff than I am of Jeff. I've been on international holidays with some of you, known you for 5 years, count you as friends, look forward to seeing you at conventions, massively respect your knowledge and am always hounding you to come on my podcast. But so far, I don't see the evidence of malicious intent to commit fraud.
You have the forum to produce all your findings. Your more than welcome to come on the podcast. The interview will probably be deleted soon as it was done as a service to forward your investigation.
I hope this all ends well for everyone.