Long Time suspected FAKE baggies scam / seller
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Frunkstar
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80s_collector said:
This may well have been a common practice, I never said it was not, what I dd say is the all beggie I have checked to go on the guide go through a great many checks before being added, not just heat seal pattern / tape seal integrity (tape slip/ageing/edges & how they lay on the bag) or the baggie type, but also checking the coo & family mold correspond to other known examples etc, I don't just pluck something random out of thin air you know, there's 4 years work gone in to constructing the baggies guide, may I ask have you even read the guide??
80s_collector said:
Not really - slander is spoken defamation. Libel is written defamation.
It's not a Kangeroo court you know, all the evidence has been collated / cross checked & looked at in detail on a dedicated investigations group between 15 noteworthy collectors, all specialists in there chosen field / focus, again we did not pull all this info out of our asses you know.
80s_collector said:
As for the last sentence -
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palitoyjunky said:
Is 80s_Collector the chap who claimed to have some cardback variations that had never been documented before, but refused to share the pics?
If that's true then he's probably not a person who values guides, research, or indeed contributing knowledge to the community.
In this thread also seems to just be here to try and derail.
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maxf said:
Ah ok mate, point taken...Lol
tiefighterboy
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I still can't get my head around people still defending this scam artist. Hell..I am fairly sure he not only sold them but most likely manufactured them. Why have a middle man
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So no one has yet offered name to this whole ordeal such as with Toy Toni. Here are some suggestions below:
Baggie-tastrophe
Bag-pocalypse
Baggie-gate
Douchebaggie-gate
D-baggie-gate
Jeff Baggieville
Jeff-gate
Call Jeff's baggies: Douchebaggies
Baggie-tastrophe
Bag-pocalypse
Baggie-gate
Douchebaggie-gate
D-baggie-gate
Jeff Baggieville
Jeff-gate
Call Jeff's baggies: Douchebaggies
Nick_IoW
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Ross_Barr said:So no one has yet offered name to this whole ordeal such as with Toy Toni. Here are some suggestions below:
Baggie-tastrophe
Bag-pocalypse
Baggie-gate
Douchebaggie-gate
D-baggie-gate
Jeff Baggieville
Jeff-gate
Call Jeff's baggies: Douchebaggies
All good options. I'd like to throw 'J-bagging' in there too, cos I've been J-bagged and it's left a nasty taste in my mouth.
Bunglebubs
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Ross_Barr said:So no one has yet offered name to this whole ordeal such as with Toy Toni. Here are some suggestions below:
Douchebaggie-gate
It has to be this one
Frunkstar
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Ross_Barr said:So no one has yet offered name to this whole ordeal such as with Toy Toni. Here are some suggestions below:
Baggie-tastrophe
Bag-pocalypse
Baggie-gate
Douchebaggie-gate
D-baggie-gate
Jeff Baggieville
Jeff-gate
Call Jeff's baggies: Douchebaggies
Close, I like Bagocalypse myself, or the obvious - Made In Reading Baggies (courtesy of momike)
elcroz
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I was explaining the 'Jeff' subject with a friend last night and he says that Jeff had contacted him regarding a collection of figures that he was selling on eBay back in late October 2016.
Jeff offered £300 for a pale blue tri-logo Boba Fett (great condition) which was amongst the collection. My friend did not sell it to him.
Obviously Jeff may have wanted it for his own collection?However Jeff has sold a fair few 'tri logo' Fett's in baggies so why not keep one back for himself? Why buy another? Especially if you have been in the vintage world as long as he has.
When you consider him selling all these 'rare' baggie TL Boba Fett's as per the listed evidence - it does make you think that by offering to quickly buy a TL-Fett for £300 (a pretty steep price) - then POSSIBLY touch the paint up and then POSSIBLY put it in a baggie and then charge an extortionate amount to a collector who doesn't know any better.
It's all theory & paranoia though and nothing solid.
Please see screenshot.
Hats off to Frank and the team for safeguarding the hobby.
Jeff offered £300 for a pale blue tri-logo Boba Fett (great condition) which was amongst the collection. My friend did not sell it to him.
Obviously Jeff may have wanted it for his own collection?However Jeff has sold a fair few 'tri logo' Fett's in baggies so why not keep one back for himself? Why buy another? Especially if you have been in the vintage world as long as he has.
When you consider him selling all these 'rare' baggie TL Boba Fett's as per the listed evidence - it does make you think that by offering to quickly buy a TL-Fett for £300 (a pretty steep price) - then POSSIBLY touch the paint up and then POSSIBLY put it in a baggie and then charge an extortionate amount to a collector who doesn't know any better.
It's all theory & paranoia though and nothing solid.
Please see screenshot.
Hats off to Frank and the team for safeguarding the hobby.
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Frunkstar
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Interesting elcroz!!
As I was digging a little further through my emails & found the below from Jeff asking about Tri Fett's & did they come in baggie, if so which type & so on, I also late in a reply confirm they are stupidly rare with only one known & confirmed example.
It is also interesting that I know of at lest one other Mint Tri Fett Jeff has bought for a fairly high price (from one of the members on here) wonder why he would want so many of the same figure then ???
As I was digging a little further through my emails & found the below from Jeff asking about Tri Fett's & did they come in baggie, if so which type & so on, I also late in a reply confirm they are stupidly rare with only one known & confirmed example.
It is also interesting that I know of at lest one other Mint Tri Fett Jeff has bought for a fairly high price (from one of the members on here) wonder why he would want so many of the same figure then ???
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Said Mr Power Droid :lol:Frunkstar said:
Talking of Tri fetts here's a graded one he had of me in November which I presumed he purchased using his other halfs account
This was a very reluctant sale, only sold it to fund another purchase from Jeff that turned out to be fake, sold the graded fett because I thought I had a legit example in the baggie i had from him in late 2015, which is looking more and more likely to be fake unfortunately
This was a very reluctant sale, only sold it to fund another purchase from Jeff that turned out to be fake, sold the graded fett because I thought I had a legit example in the baggie i had from him in late 2015, which is looking more and more likely to be fake unfortunately
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On another note, sorry to go off topic as such : Around 10k's worth of baggie sales in the last 12 months alone & he's flew under ebay's rules & reg's radar & got away with not registering himself as a business instead of private on ebay as he clearly should be :shock:
Hmmm I think ebay & inland revenue take a very dim view of this type of thing nowadays as its seen as possible tax evation but more importantly to ebay it takes away most consumer rights if a seller is private ;-) - Ebay will take one look at those figures and demand he change to business & if he does not accept their terms & conditions selling limits will be placed on his ebay account.
Happned to my misses 2 years ago after she phoned them with a problem with a purchase she'd made, then after seeing that she'd sold 2nd hand personal clothing which came to over 3.5k the previous year that by whatever law she had to register as business wether she was actually an actual business or not to continue selling that much :x ebay got told to bolt as she'd be selling nothing more in future on the platform, True to word about about a month later an mail appeared - they'd placed a selling limit on a 16 year old account & she received a letter from Hmrc. How this guy's got away with selling what? 20k's worth of stuff, most of it turning out to be fake ?? the past 2 years I do not know. :roll:
:shock:Hmmm I think ebay & inland revenue take a very dim view of this type of thing nowadays as its seen as possible tax evation but more importantly to ebay it takes away most consumer rights if a seller is private ;-) - Ebay will take one look at those figures and demand he change to business & if he does not accept their terms & conditions selling limits will be placed on his ebay account.
Happned to my misses 2 years ago after she phoned them with a problem with a purchase she'd made, then after seeing that she'd sold 2nd hand personal clothing which came to over 3.5k the previous year that by whatever law she had to register as business wether she was actually an actual business or not to continue selling that much :x ebay got told to bolt as she'd be selling nothing more in future on the platform, True to word about about a month later an mail appeared - they'd placed a selling limit on a 16 year old account & she received a letter from Hmrc. How this guy's got away with selling what? 20k's worth of stuff, most of it turning out to be fake ?? the past 2 years I do not know. :roll:
jay4 said:On another note, sorry to go off topic as such : Around 10k's worth of baggie sales in the last 12 months alone & he's flew under ebay's rules & reg's radar & got away with not registering himself as a business instead of private on ebay as he clearly should be
Hmmm I think ebay & inland revenue take a very dim view of this type of thing nowadays as its seen as possible tax evation but more importantly to ebay it takes away most consumer rights if a seller is private ;-) - Ebay will take one look at those figures and demand he change to business & if he does not accept their terms & conditions selling limits will be placed on his ebay account.
Happned to my misses 2 years ago after she phoned them with a problem with a purchase she'd made, then after seeing that she'd sold 2nd hand personal clothing which came to over 3.5k the previous year that by whatever law she had to register as business wether she was actually an actual business or not to continue selling that much :x ebay got told to bolt as she'd be selling nothing more in future on the platform, True to word about about a month later an mail appeared - they'd placed a selling limit on a 16 year old account & she received a letter from Hmrc. How this guy's got away with selling what? 20k's worth of stuff, most of it turning out to be fake ?? the past 2 years I do not know. :roll:
Same thing happened to me, just waiting on hmrc though
Frunkstar
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lejackal said:
I have no bloody idea WTF you are on about there :? :lol:
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tiefighterboy said:
I agree completely, he has basically said I don't make them because I don't have time. Which is another way of saying I don't make them but I know a man who does or I do make them and this is a good reason why I don't.
He's gone past the stage of defending himself without professional help which is why their is no response.
