Snaketibe said:SAVORY100 said:'The Fan base' is broadly happy with the output, the box office shows that.
What the box office actually shows is that TLJ made $722 million less than TFA. And it would have been a hell of a lot less than that if people like me, (who went to see TLJ once, expecting to then make multiple repeat viewings, but didn't because they hated it) had known what it was like before handing over their ticket money. The toy sales are in the sewer. TLJ Blu-ray sales are unsurprisingly also piss-poor. These are NOT things that derive from the fan base being 'broadly happy with the output'. SOME of the fan base is happy, but some of it most certainly is not.
I understand that you personally like TLJ and have no problems with it. I have no problem with you (or anyone else) liking it. But you do seem to be wilfully blind to the fact that a huge section of the fan base does have a problem with TLJ. I am not some toxic fan boy and neither am I an alt-right, sexist, racist, misogynistic, whiny manbaby. I simply don't like TLJ, and for the same reasons that most others that don't like it (crap, boring, nonsensical, non-canonical story, which rides roughshod over not only the OT, but even TFA, which treats the character of Luke Skywalker with astonishing disrespect, and which simply fails to please a massive chunk of its target audience). Yes there is also a very vocal minority of assholes disliking the film for very different reasons, but that doesn't mean my own and other people's reasons for disliking it aren't valid. For example, I dislike the character of Rose Tico, not because she is a woman, not because Kelly Tran has Vietnamese heritage, but because the character is crap, thoroughly unconvincing, completely unnecessary and adds zero to the plot other than a hugely implausible and needless 'love interest' for Finn. If a few loud sexist, racist cunts dislike Rose and Kelly Tran because the character is female and or because Kelly is not white, that doesn't devalue my own criticisms, even though I abhor theirs.
The simple truth is that Disney have divided the fan base with their mismanagement of the franchise in general and with TLJ in particular, and they are beginning to pay the price for it. Solo deserved to do much better at the box office than it did, IMHO (I'm actually going to see it again this very evening, as it happens), but a lot of fans are understandably pissed off. If Disney serve them up a **** sandwich for breakfast, they shouldn't be surprised if people decline their invitation to dinner, and I don't doubt many fans stayed away from Solo after disliking TLJ. I personally did not take this view as I was prepared to give Solo a chance, but a lot of fans won't. I also don't doubt that there will be other reasons for Solo's poor performance as well (and it IS a poor performance, despite your claim that its takings are in line with other blockbusters, as it is heading for a loss!), including poor marketing, the fact it was released just five months after TLJ, and also competition from other films, but there is undoubtedly also going to be a reduction due to a 'once bitten, twice shy' syndrome from fans that hate TLJ.
And since you provide your own anecdotal evidence that you 'have in person met far more people that are very happy with the last 3-4 years of releases' (which I am quite happy to accept, btw), I will counter with my own anecdotal evidence that I have met exceptionally few people that do like TLJ. Most people I've met seem broadly happy with TFA and Rogue One and also Solo (those that have seen it), but very few have had a good word to say about TLJ. That doesn't mean there aren't others like you out there that do like the film, but please don't kid yourself or insult our intelligence by pretending there isn't a very large and seriously pissed off chunk of the fan base (and I include all Star Wars fans, great and small in that catch-all term) that don't share that view.
I'm glad you will no longer be watching any more SW movies
It will be one less moaning voice that didn't get what they wanted... man baby much... sigh