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Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 36, 2019, Part 2/2

Postby Lom » Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:05 pm

I do like a Hoth Rebel Soldier - great looking figure and card back that I’ve only come to appreciate in later years if I’m honest; as a kid I wasn’t that fussed I seem to recall - same with the Rebel Commando. Anyhoo... Aside from a couple of loose ones from my childhood I have an ESB-A baggie in a multipack and a carded figure which I bought as a reseal but I’m still not convinced; it’s either a moc or the best reseal I’ve ever seen.

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Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 36, 2019, Part 2/2

Postby Snaketibe » Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:21 pm

Lom wrote:I do like a Hoth Rebel Soldier - great looking figure and card back that I’ve only come to appreciate in later years if I’m honest; as a kid I wasn’t that fussed I seem to recall - same with the Rebel Commando. Anyhoo... Aside from a couple of loose ones from my childhood I have an ESB-A baggie in a multipack and a carded figure which I bought as a reseal but I’m still not convinced; it’s either a moc or the best reseal I’ve ever seen.

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Some wonderful pieces there! Thanks for sharing :-)

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Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 36, 2019, Part 2/2

Postby Pomse2001 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:55 pm

Snaketibe wrote:The Rebel Soldier (Hoth Battle Gear), or just plain 'Hoth Rebel Soldier' as I've always called it.

When the first 10 figures for 'The Empire Strikes Back' were released back in 1980, Kenner released a Han Hoth figure, but no Luke Hoth. They also released a Luke Bespin figure, but no Han Bespin in that same wave, which led to a requirement for some imagination to be used when playing with my figures and recreating scenes from the new film :-). The black and white clothed original 12-back Han had to suffice for Bespin scenes, but for Hoth ones, in the absence of a properly attired Luke, the good old Hoth Rebel Soldier had to be wheeled into action! Once stuffed inside my tauntaun (solid belly), he doubled as Luke as I manoeuvred him across the icy wastes of my bedroom carpet!

Fast forward 40 years and I no longer have to pretend that he's Luke, but he certainly does have some interesting variants, if you're into that sort of thing! The figure comes in some very different iterations, with different sculpts, paint jobs and plastic colours being used. Quite famously these days of course, he can be found in a much darker PBP brown vest than the regular Kenner versions, and the fact that this is the most obvious and sought-after variant I find a little ironic, given the fact that Kenner chose to illustrate the figure's cardback with the 'wrong' Hoth Rebel Soldier who isn't even wearing a brown vest! :lol: You could argue they made the wrong figure, but the fact remains that the brown vested version is the one we got, so here are mine.

From left to right:

Hong Kong COO, cream moulded legs with brown paint, orange face, less detailed scarf knot, unpainted rank bar, jacket zip not joined at the bottom, square pelvis, mid brown paint on his cap, light brown plastic torso.

Hong Kong COO, cream moulded legs with brown paint, orange face, less detailed scarf knot, unpainted rank bar, jacket zip not joined at the bottom, square pelvis, darker brown paint on his cap, light brown plastic torso.

Hong Kong COO, cream moulded legs with lighter brown paint, pink face, more detailed scarf knot, unpainted rank bar, jacket zip joined at the bottom, rounded pelvis, light brown paint on his cap, light brown plastic torso.

Raised bar China COO, brown moulded legs with cream paint, pink face, less detailed scarf knot, painted rank bar, jacket zip not joined at the bottom, square pelvis, light brown paint on his cap, light brown plastic torso.

PBP Hong Kong COO, brown moulded legs with white paint, pink face, less detailed scarf knot, painted rank bar, jacket zip not joined at the bottom, square pelvis, light brown paint on his cap, light brown plastic torso.

PBP Erased COO, cream moulded legs with dark brown paint, white face, more detailed scarf knot, unpainted rank bar, jacket zip joined at the bottom, rounded pelvis, dark brown paint on his cap, dark brown plastic torso, metallic blue blaster.

PBP Erased COO, cream moulded legs with dark brown paint, very pink face, more detailed scarf knot, unpainted rank bar, jacket zip joined at the bottom, rounded pelvis, dark brown paint on his cap, dark brown plastic torso.

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Very strange they released the figures like that, I do not remember how they released them because I was first old enough to get my first figure in 1983 :lol: But I would have thought it as a kid to get a solo goth figure but no luke before later :( the same with the bespin figures.

I love that much darker PBP brown vest, but again stupid the wrong soldier is on the cardback :roll: or was it the wrong figure on the cardback. It has been a few years since I last saw esb, but I do not remember any brown vest rebel soldiers in the movie :?

Lovely collection that you have and I love that metallic blaster 8)

thanks for all the info about the variants

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Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 36, 2019, Part 2/2

Postby theforceuk » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:47 pm

Wow some amazing examples posted. I loved this figure as a kid and still do now. Not really sure why, perhaps it’s the simplicity of the sculpt?


Here’s my mini focus which I hope to expand. The Rebel Soldier with the blaster in the army is my childhood one and the graded one is also from my childhood. Managed to get a pink face dark brown one a couple weeks ago.

Then the MOCs are left to right; 31B, 77A and Trilogo. Really hope to add to the MOCs soon. :D

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Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 36, 2019, Part 2/2

Postby TheJabbaWookie » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:36 pm

Lom wrote:I do like a Hoth Rebel Soldier - great looking figure and card back that I’ve only come to appreciate in later years if I’m honest; as a kid I wasn’t that fussed I seem to recall - same with the Rebel Commando. Anyhoo... Aside from a couple of loose ones from my childhood I have an ESB-A baggie in a multipack and a carded figure which I bought as a reseal but I’m still not convinced; it’s either a moc or the best reseal I’ve ever seen.

Great pieces. That 6 pack :o

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Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 36, 2019, Part 2/2

Postby TheJabbaWookie » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:37 pm

theforceuk wrote:Wow some amazing examples posted. I loved this figure as a kid and still do now. Not really sure why, perhaps it’s the simplicity of the sculpt?


Here’s my mini focus which I hope to expand. The Rebel Soldier with the blaster in the army is my childhood one and the graded one is also from my childhood. Managed to get a pink face dark brown one a couple weeks ago.

Then the MOCs are left to right; 31B, 77A and Trilogo. Really hope to add to the MOCs soon. :D

Lovely collection

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Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 36, 2019, Part 2/2

Postby Snaketibe » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:19 pm

theforceuk wrote:Wow some amazing examples posted. I loved this figure as a kid and still do now. Not really sure why, perhaps it’s the simplicity of the sculpt?


Here’s my mini focus which I hope to expand. The Rebel Soldier with the blaster in the army is my childhood one and the graded one is also from my childhood. Managed to get a pink face dark brown one a couple weeks ago.

Then the MOCs are left to right; 31B, 77A and Trilogo. Really hope to add to the MOCs soon. :D

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That's a great focus collection! Thanks for sharing it :-)

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Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 36, 2019, Part 2/2

Postby Snaketibe » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:30 pm

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Snaketibe wrote:The Rebel Soldier (Hoth Battle Gear), or just plain 'Hoth Rebel Soldier' as I've always called it.

When the first 10 figures for 'The Empire Strikes Back' were released back in 1980, Kenner released a Han Hoth figure, but no Luke Hoth. They also released a Luke Bespin figure, but no Han Bespin in that same wave, which led to a requirement for some imagination to be used when playing with my figures and recreating scenes from the new film :-). The black and white clothed original 12-back Han had to suffice for Bespin scenes, but for Hoth ones, in the absence of a properly attired Luke, the good old Hoth Rebel Soldier had to be wheeled into action! Once stuffed inside my tauntaun (solid belly), he doubled as Luke as I manoeuvred him across the icy wastes of my bedroom carpet!

Fast forward 40 years and I no longer have to pretend that he's Luke, but he certainly does have some interesting variants, if you're into that sort of thing! The figure comes in some very different iterations, with different sculpts, paint jobs and plastic colours being used. Quite famously these days of course, he can be found in a much darker PBP brown vest than the regular Kenner versions, and the fact that this is the most obvious and sought-after variant I find a little ironic, given the fact that Kenner chose to illustrate the figure's cardback with the 'wrong' Hoth Rebel Soldier who isn't even wearing a brown vest! :lol: You could argue they made the wrong figure, but the fact remains that the brown vested version is the one we got, so here are mine.


Very strange they released the figures like that, I do not remember how they released them because I was first old enough to get my first figure in 1983 :lol: But I would have thought it as a kid to get a solo goth figure but no luke before later :( the same with the bespin figures.

I love that much darker PBP brown vest, but again stupid the wrong soldier is on the cardback :roll: or was it the wrong figure on the cardback. It has been a few years since I last saw esb, but I do not remember any brown vest rebel soldiers in the movie :?

Lovely collection that you have and I love that metallic blaster 8)

thanks for all the info about the variants

There are Hoth Rebels with brown vests in 'The Empire Strikes Back', but they aren't dark brown though! :-D. They effectively wear the same outfits as Luke, but Kenner clearly got its wires crossed when pairing their Hoth Rebel Soldier figure with the accompanying cardback image!

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Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 36, 2019, Part 2/2

Postby Pomse2001 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:11 pm

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Pomse2001 wrote:
Snaketibe wrote:The Rebel Soldier (Hoth Battle Gear), or just plain 'Hoth Rebel Soldier' as I've always called it.

When the first 10 figures for 'The Empire Strikes Back' were released back in 1980, Kenner released a Han Hoth figure, but no Luke Hoth. They also released a Luke Bespin figure, but no Han Bespin in that same wave, which led to a requirement for some imagination to be used when playing with my figures and recreating scenes from the new film :-). The black and white clothed original 12-back Han had to suffice for Bespin scenes, but for Hoth ones, in the absence of a properly attired Luke, the good old Hoth Rebel Soldier had to be wheeled into action! Once stuffed inside my tauntaun (solid belly), he doubled as Luke as I manoeuvred him across the icy wastes of my bedroom carpet!

Fast forward 40 years and I no longer have to pretend that he's Luke, but he certainly does have some interesting variants, if you're into that sort of thing! The figure comes in some very different iterations, with different sculpts, paint jobs and plastic colours being used. Quite famously these days of course, he can be found in a much darker PBP brown vest than the regular Kenner versions, and the fact that this is the most obvious and sought-after variant I find a little ironic, given the fact that Kenner chose to illustrate the figure's cardback with the 'wrong' Hoth Rebel Soldier who isn't even wearing a brown vest! :lol: You could argue they made the wrong figure, but the fact remains that the brown vested version is the one we got, so here are mine.


Very strange they released the figures like that, I do not remember how they released them because I was first old enough to get my first figure in 1983 :lol: But I would have thought it as a kid to get a solo goth figure but no luke before later :( the same with the bespin figures.

I love that much darker PBP brown vest, but again stupid the wrong soldier is on the cardback :roll: or was it the wrong figure on the cardback. It has been a few years since I last saw esb, but I do not remember any brown vest rebel soldiers in the movie :?

Lovely collection that you have and I love that metallic blaster 8)

thanks for all the info about the variants

There are Hoth Rebels with brown vests in 'The Empire Strikes Back', but they aren't dark brown though! :-D. They effectively wear the same outfits as Luke, but Kenner clearly got its wires crossed when pairing their Hoth Rebel Soldier figure with the accompanying cardback image!

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Damn I have forgot that, but as you write they are not dark brown, I would say they do not even look like the light brown on the common rebel soldiers. More like luke hoth. But since I have forgot that then I have to see ESB again soon :lol:

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Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 36, 2019, Part 2/2

Postby Pomse2001 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:29 pm

spoons wrote:A lot of Rebels there Jeremy - love those Spanish ones

Here are a couple of mine, a baggie in an ESB Hoth 4 pack and one of only two of my childhood figures, which was found in a flower bed 16 years after getting lost. Interesting how only some limbs discoloured in the earth

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Wow amazing collection that you have andy :shock: also a funny story about the figure found in the flower bed after 16 years :lol: I agree Interesting how only some limbs discoloured in the earth :shock:

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Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 36, 2019, Part 2/2

Postby Pomse2001 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:30 pm

Dr_Ball_MD wrote:PBP with metallic blaster.

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amazing figure with a fucking cool blaster, thanks for sharing them on the forum 8)

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Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 36, 2019, Part 2/2

Postby Pomse2001 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:31 pm

Mini99 wrote:No exotic metallic blasters or amazing four pack or lovey PBP variants - just an ESB MOC from me this time.


and a lovely moc it is, It looks fantastic 8)

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Postby Pomse2001 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:32 pm

Palifan wrote:Here's a couple of my reseals with one needing some work.

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wow ian that is some great reseals, thanks for sharing them :D

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Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 36, 2019, Part 2/2

Postby Pomse2001 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:49 pm

TheJabbaWookie wrote:Some superb examples. Here’s my three.
L-R: moulded legs with HK coo; painted legs with MADE IN no coo (sometimes accidentally or deliberately mis-sold as Meccanno variant); PBP smooth no coo (unfortunately with glued left leg but at half the price)


Some cool variants that you have in your collection, thanks mate for sharing them :D

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Re: Star Wars Toy of the Week, Week 36, 2019, Part 2/2

Postby Pomse2001 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:54 pm

Lom wrote:I do like a Hoth Rebel Soldier - great looking figure and card back that I’ve only come to appreciate in later years if I’m honest; as a kid I wasn’t that fussed I seem to recall - same with the Rebel Commando. Anyhoo... Aside from a couple of loose ones from my childhood I have an ESB-A baggie in a multipack and a carded figure which I bought as a reseal but I’m still not convinced; it’s either a moc or the best reseal I’ve ever seen.

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Amazing just amazing, that six pack is so cool, I have been looking after one for 18 years, but everytime I have seen one then I thought it was to expensive for me, today I wish I had not thought it was to expensive in 2001 :roll: but I think we all have done mistakes like that with star wars toy. Saying I will wait maybe prices will go down or a cheaper one will come for sale and then prices is just going up and up.

I am not a moc expert but to me it looks original :D


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