Long Time suspected FAKE baggies scam / seller

Frunkstar · Jan 18, 2017

Right take a look at this please folks, never noticed at the time obviously, but looking back at this & cross checking the dates :shock:

First this which I posted earlier on with Jeff asking me about tir fett baggies, I'E do they exist & are they rare etc (note the date 14/914)

The roughly 3 months later Jeff buys a bulk lot (all photos below) it has a tri fett in it (convenient) & it's come from a friend of a friend of a friend yadda yadda

Close ups -

So 3 months after I confirm they exist, he has one (after never having seen one before) I then buy it (him testing the water IMO) I have it graded & confirm it graded at UKG, now this was the very first he got, I did feel the seal looked really clean & the tape laid on top of the baggie rather than looking fused to it like then tend to when being well aged, but when it graded I figure it was just my paranoia. looking back at it with a clear & more critical mind, it looks very very fishy as

1. he confirms with me they exist in a baggie

2. He gets one & sells it to me at a fair price that he knows I will jump at (375)

3. he awaits to see if it grades as he knows it will be submitted to UKG

4. the floodgates open & he suddenly he has multiples available at an insane sum

Does any of this sound too good to be true or is that just me.

Also the fact is known that he has been buying mint tri fett's again all seems just way to convenient in my eyes.

& on a side note - he is just selling ones from his own personal collection & does not trade / buy in lot's to flip ??? - really as this is only one of many lots he has shown me over the years, not got to the others in my email streams as yet

boba76 · Jan 18, 2017

Has anyone made any further contact with this Jeff for a further response ..?

Richard_H · Jan 19, 2017

Can anyone corroborate the story of a cousin in the States? Have people sold baggies to Jeff which have gone to a US address? Equally, has a US seller sold baggies that have gone direct to U.K.? Either way would be interesting.

SAVORY100 · Jan 19, 2017

Frunkstar said:
Right take a look at this please folks, never noticed at the time obviously, but looking back at this & cross checking the dates :shock:

First this which I posted earlier on with Jeff asking me about tir fett baggies, I'E do they exist & are they rare etc (note the date 14/914)

Tri fett.png

The roughly 3 months later Jeff buys a bulk lot (all photos below) it has a tri fett in it (convenient) & it's come from a friend of a friend of a friend yadda yadda

large lot 1.png

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Close ups -

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So 3 months after I confirm they exist, he has one (after never having seen one before) I then buy it (him testing the water IMO) I have it graded & confirm it graded at UKG, now this was the very first he got, I did feel the seal looked really clean & the tape laid on top of the baggie rather than looking fused to it like then tend to when being well aged, but when it graded I figure it was just my paranoia. looking back at it with a clear & more critical mind, it looks very very fishy as

1. he confirms with me they exist in a baggie

2. He gets one & sells it to me at a fair price that he knows I will jump at (375)

3. he awaits to see if it grades as he knows it will be submitted to UKG

4. the floodgates open & he suddenly he has multiples available at an insane sum

Does any of this sound too good to be true or is that just me.

Also the fact is known that he has been buying mint tri fett's again all seems just way to convenient in my eyes.

& on a side note - he is just selling ones from his own personal collection & does not trade / buy in lot's to flip ??? - really as this is only one of many lots he has shown me over the years, not got to the others in my email streams as yet

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Who is Haden? Supplier? Forwarder? Made-up person?

maxf · Jan 19, 2017

Ross_Barr said:
So no one has yet offered name to this whole ordeal such as with Toy Toni. Here are some suggestions below:

Baggie-tastrophe

Bag-pocalypse

Baggie-gate

Douchebaggie-gate

D-baggie-gate

Jeff Baggieville

Jeff-gate

Call Jeff's baggies: Douchebaggies

We probably need to rename him 'The Glanvillain'.

edd_jedi · Jan 19, 2017

Not entirely related but it's worth pointing out that although you can't see which items were bought, Jeff has left feedback for the other account he uses to buy things with several times which may indicate shill bidding. You can also see some of the items bought with this account were definitely Star Wars items based on the other usernames, eg danforth_toys, moseisley_collectibles etc.

maxf · Jan 19, 2017

edd_jedi said:
Not entirely related but it's worth pointing out that although you can't see which items were bought, Jeff has left feedback for the other account he uses to buy things with several times which may indicate shill bidding. You can also see some of the items bought with this account were definitely Star Wars items based on the other usernames, eg danforth_toys, moseisley_collectibles etc.

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Great minds think alike - in the first 100 feedbacks there has been feedback left from (no intimation these arent legit SW sellers at all!):

jabbaspalace769 (who is selling the 30bk Lando on the forum I think)
danforths_toys
funcollectables_4u
j10e5f6f6 (cheeky bastard - they have 'bought' a few bits from Jeff)
moseisley_collectibles (sells loads of loose accessories)
thosewerethedroidswewerelooking4
darthgulliver
sw4lomtrading
markpoon (alarm bells ringing yet!)
marsking (they should be now!)
richierichcollectables
thetoycave
kfckarl
sydneyvintagetoys

That's just in the first 100 feedbacks. Lots of other sellers could be sellers of SW, just without obvious names.

I'm also not sure if there is a way to search through these sellers sold items, with winning bidders of b***x? This could then be linked back to Jeff possibly.

Bradley1Alex has the same postcode registered as Jeff's business address. They are linked - no question.

Starzone · Jan 19, 2017

From my experience eBay feedback accounts for below 50% of sales and purchases

Unless that's me just being lazy and not leaving/chasing people for feedback.

Mr-shifter · Jan 19, 2017

Sadly adds more weight to the fact the "technophobe I can't use the internet" argument is bullshit, as he seems to clearly know his way round multiple eBay accounts and how to use the site.

Is his Mrs name Alex? I guess Bradley is either his kids name or mrs maiden name.

Anyone done a search on his home postcode for family living there?

edd_jedi · Jan 19, 2017

I don't think there's any need to delve in to his family or personal life, we already know he was the receiver of items bought through that account as the seller has posted in this thread and confirmed it was Jeff.

maxf · Jan 19, 2017

Mr-shifter said:
Is his Mrs name Alex? I guess Bradley is either his kids name or mrs maiden name.

Anyone done a search on his home postcode for family living there?

Nah, I did have a look at the company info and address - just to make sure the account was the same person. No need to look at his family though, IMO.

Bonsai_Tree_Ent · Jan 19, 2017

tiefighterboy said:
I still can't get my head around people still defending this scam artist.

Knowingly sold fake baggies - proven
Sold repro vinyl cape jawa - proven
Shill bid on own items - proven
Dealings with Mark Poon and Toy Toni in past 6 months - proven
Lied under questioning - proven
Baggie swapped / made fake baggies - highly likely (see Trilogo Fett evidence)

Glanville seems like a stand up guy to me!

SideShow · Jan 19, 2017

Richard - I bought a DT SW-A baggie from Jeff for which I had concerns. Frank was iffy or it and a member from RS was very down on it. I returned it to Jeff and was supposedly caught up in customs for which we split the tariff.

Jeff's response to the hiccup:

"I been on to parcel force and put forward this case (Waste of time) then to UK Customs (After an 45 min wait) and unfortunately there is nothing that can done only at this time other than to 1. Put in a claim and wait 2-3 months for an answer (Done this before and got nowhere) 2.Pay for it or 3. Wait 20 days and they will send it back to you ,Then you can then send it to my Coz ,Matt in Pittsburgh and he will get it to me for no charge."

Long winded answer to a short question: cousin Matt in Pittsburgh.

Happy to post screen grab when I get to my pc.

A few points on my end - I sold all my Jeff baggies a number of years ago as rare baggies from him entered the market like candy. Sw-b small head Hans

I have the photos Jeff sent me from completed and failed deals. Happy sent to mods if needed - pls pm me.

Lastly - big shout out to Edd. What a fantastic job moderating such volatile thread and situation. Such patience and poise. Cheers to you and your contribution to the boards and community.

yoda · Jan 19, 2017

I have been following this thread and I am shocked at the scale of this. I really hope that anyone who has paid money gets some sort of justice if they have a fake item.
I could be wrong but I'd be surprised if Jeff isn't following this thread also. I know he still hasn't responded on here and I don't believe he ever will.
I Just want to say great work Frank and everyone involved I know it couldn't have been easy what yous have done. But at least it has hopefully helped future collectors.

lee gray · Jan 19, 2017

It defo looks like he was trying to get confirmation from you Frank before putting these out on the market so they would look legit. Good job he also went with his own ideas too with the wrong type baggies as looks like greed did indeed play a big part, instead of casually slipping one out every now and again.

As for the saying why would he go FF if he was selling fakes. Precisely because ppl wouldnt suspect someone to be that stupid and thus a double bluff which has now backfired.

edd_jedi · Jan 19, 2017

lee gray said:
As for the saying why would he go FF if he was selling fakes. Precisely because ppl wouldnt suspect someone to be that stupid and thus a double bluff which has now backfired.

I also think he sold at FF because cash sales leave no trace. In fact eBay is also quite hard to trace as after 3 months it's gone. I'm sure this would have been spotted much sooner if he was actively selling on forums and Facebook.

Frunkstar · Jan 19, 2017

yoda said:
I could be wrong but I'd be surprised if Jeff isn't following this thread also. I know he still hasn't responded on here and I don't believe he ever will.

I have no doubt he will be tagging along in silence, here's a little snippet from another of my emails where he states including items on the baggie guide, so 100% conformation that he reads the forum when it suites him to do so, also note what the items are he is suggesting be included (SW-a baggies) & legit SW-a baggies which is all he has ever showed me via emails, the only SW-a I got of him which was fake was one I won on ebay via one of his auctions, or I may have now still been none the wiser about the faked SW-a's that have been put out, a little more shocking info on the SW-a's coming up shortly BTW

Frunkstar · Jan 19, 2017

edd_jedi said:
lee gray said:

As for the saying why would he go FF if he was selling fakes. Precisely because ppl wouldnt suspect someone to be that stupid and thus a double bluff which has now backfired.

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I also think he sold at FF because cash sales leave no trace. In fact eBay is also quite hard to trace as after 3 months it's gone. I'm sure this would have been spotted much sooner if he was actively selling on forums and Facebook.

& just as he takes stuff to FF for sale does not mean he was not selective about what he took there to sell, ok he took those 2 fake Taiwan R2's which I will post up again below as I think most folks did not really take them on board at the time as the thread was all a bit confrontational at the time of posting, but those are a really big thing IMO, they show clear fakes being sold 100% & ones that would not be easy to spot without some serious understanding about baggies which not everyone who collects has, those 2 baggies are on their way to be for close inspection & photographs to be taken.

Remember that faked pin head han baggie that came up some time ago (can't remember where exactly - so if anyone does a link would be great) well it was a 1997 re issue han in a SW-a baggie, I have been informed via email that it was in jeff's box of baggies at one of the FF dates though not sure which, but he was informed it was a fake & a 97 issue han & from what I gather after he was told, he then simply threw it back in the box so some poor unsuspecting buyer would still get it, which they obviously did as I remember reading about it somewhere, if the guy who sent me that info is willing I will share full details one I hear once I hear back from them that it is ok to do so.

Frunkstar · Jan 19, 2017

Some further emails between myself & Jeff regards the SW-a baggies & more

Confirms his actively buying up SW-a from the states - more info about this in other mails (below) so it ties in

Next one (below) in a way confirms one thing he is saying about where he got many baggies from is true (Rob Gratson) but bear with me as it actually helps the case as it later shows the SW-a's he got from the guy were genuine SW-a's not the fakes he is pushing he said came from Rob, also goes on to say what a great working relationship he had with Rob & I can confirm 100% those SW-a's he got were indeed legit as I bought the FX-7 myself which is still in my collection & has since been graded

Email confirming a baggie he missed out on from Rob G which also shows the baggie which is clearly genuine, not sure I can say the same for the probot of which he has sold several, never seen any conformation one ever came with a Kenner logo on as the baggies I have seen have always been no text

This shows one of Rob G's SW-a baggies, you can see it's legit same photo as in the email above, but full size so you can see the font clearly, it's not blotchy at all & to my eyes looks clearly like the real deal

Frunkstar · Jan 19, 2017

To add to the above whilst on the subject of the SW-a baggie, here is an email about his asking me whiche figures are known to be found in that SW-a baggie, at the time I obviously just regarded this as a normal question from a fellow collector looking to expend their understanding, now I am not as convinced it was so innocent.

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