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Is This Legit? Are CAS Grading Toy Toni MOCs?

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Is This Legit? Are CAS Grading Toy Toni MOCs?

Postby indianawars » Sat Oct 06, 2018 3:09 pm

I know I've been away for a while but is GAS seriously grading toy Toni MOCs? It just seems bizarre to me. I guess it's another avenue for them to make more money :roll:

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Re: Is This Legit? Are CAS Grading Toy Toni MOCs?

Postby Mini99 » Sat Oct 06, 2018 3:19 pm

I believe that they have recently stopped this practice of grading anything that’s a fake/repo.
It was a big “thing” on FB last month, around the same time as the AFA announcement that they were no longer U grading.

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Re: Is This Legit? Are CAS Grading Toy Toni MOCs?

Postby indianawars » Sat Oct 06, 2018 3:28 pm

Mini99 wrote:I believe that they have recently stopped this practice of grading anything that’s a fake/repo.
It was a big “thing” on FB last month, around the same time as the AFA announcement that they were no longer U grading.


Oh man, so much has changed! I joined a facebook group but quickly left as it was so aggressive. I'm so out of touch... I feel like Marty McFly when he went to the future :lol:

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Re: Is This Legit? Are CAS Grading Toy Toni MOCs?

Postby Mini99 » Sat Oct 06, 2018 3:32 pm

:lol:
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Re: Is This Legit? Are CAS Grading Toy Toni MOCs?

Postby lejackal » Sat Oct 06, 2018 4:05 pm

indianawars wrote:
Mini99 wrote:I believe that they have recently stopped this practice of grading anything that’s a fake/repo.
It was a big “thing” on FB last month, around the same time as the AFA announcement that they were no longer U grading.


Oh man, so much has changed! I joined a facebook group but quickly left as it was so aggressive. I'm so out of touch... I feel like Marty McFly when he went to the future :lol:

They stopped casing reproduction MOCs but they still grade toy Tonis

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Re: Is This Legit? Are CAS Grading Toy Toni MOCs?

Postby spoons » Sat Oct 06, 2018 4:15 pm

I do think this is a bit different to repros. A lot of Tonis are graded anyway so recasing them as Tonis has to be better than leaving them as graded AFA 90s.

On the other hand I feel that grading repros in general is a green light for all repro makers to start pumping more repros out

I do agree that this could also be seen as legitimising Tonis, but if he started producing new MOCs I think the community would realise fairly fast and I suspect CAS would then stop if there was enough strong feeling. His card backs are worth more than the MOCs now in any case so this is really unlikely.

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Re: Is This Legit? Are CAS Grading Toy Toni MOCs?

Postby theforceuk » Sat Oct 06, 2018 4:48 pm

'Toy Tony Production' :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Is This Legit? Are CAS Grading Toy Toni MOCs?

Postby Mini99 » Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:04 pm

lejackal wrote:
indianawars wrote:
Mini99 wrote:I believe that they have recently stopped this practice of grading anything that’s a fake/repo.
It was a big “thing” on FB last month, around the same time as the AFA announcement that they were no longer U grading.


Oh man, so much has changed! I joined a facebook group but quickly left as it was so aggressive. I'm so out of touch... I feel like Marty McFly when he went to the future :lol:

They stopped casing reproduction MOCs but they still grade toy Tonis

Really, oh well I supose that even TT,s are “Vintage” now... :lol:
I bet he would be really proud if he knew! :roll:

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Re: Is This Legit? Are CAS Grading Toy Toni MOCs?

Postby subzero » Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:38 pm

Fuck this planet!
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Re: Is This Legit? Are CAS Grading Toy Toni MOCs?

Postby Wreck-It Ralph » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:49 pm

When they grade Repo's or TT's do they state it on the grading label?
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Re: Is This Legit? Are CAS Grading Toy Toni MOCs?

Postby Mr-shifter » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:42 pm

Wreck-It Ralph wrote:When they grade Repo's or TT's do they state it on the grading label?


They only graded a few repros for one person as they were apparently sentimental. Once he put them up for sale for 000s, cas had to pay him to destroy them.

They put the words “toy Toni production” on the label of a toy Toni.
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Re: Is This Legit? Are CAS Grading Toy Toni MOCs?

Postby mr_palitoy » Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:38 am

I think the TT grading is withdrawn now. The links to the pages on the CAS website about it are removed now. And in practice it wasn’t a service anyone requested beyond the initial example of Bill Cable’s C3PO.

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Re: Is This Legit? Are CAS Grading Toy Toni MOCs?

Postby Wreck-It Ralph » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:08 am

I know TT isn't very popular but would the items he sold still be classed as vintage?
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Re: Is This Legit? Are CAS Grading Toy Toni MOCs?

Postby Robstyley » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:58 am

Wreck-It Ralph wrote:I know TT isn't very popular but would the items he sold still be classed as vintage?


Yes, they are vintage, there's no arguement about that. Card, bubble and figure are all vintage. It's just that the shitdick put those three components together himself and then sold them as original factory sealed without disclosure.

Personally I don't think "they" should grade anything like this but it's not really a big deal. It's just been put in a sealed case with a label on it saying what it is. I don't like Tonis and I don't like grading so it doesn't appeal to me but someone will like it :P


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