Luke dt inner fillement glows pink under uv fake?

Hi,
First time on, been collecting for a while lol
I have a complete figure collection all with original accessories (so I thought) and over a hundred complete variations ledy,pbp,ups etc
In Feb during a long period of ill health I bought a Luke dt on eBay from a very high feedback dealer who mostly deals in baggies
The saber sheath was one of the dot hilts but I noticed the inner fillement was a more vibrant yellow than the sheath.the seller convinced me that it was correct stating he'd seen many in baggies the same and he's measured it and tested it and was sure it was genuine so I happily and proudly put him next to my v/cape jawa and thought no more.
Two days ago a fellow collector was admiring my collection and produced a uv torch and said it was a good way to see fake sabers
We tested all 20 odd sabers I had and I was gutted to see the dts fillement glowed pink/red :/ am I right in thinking this is a reproduction?

I am fairly confident from checking quite a large number of Luke sabers under UV light in the past that legitimate original vintage sabers should all glow and that in fact most of the earlier sabers including the DT-sabers glow even brighter under UV-light. I had always considered it to be fairly conclusive so I'd definitely get it checked out. Perhaps post some pictures up?

Same goes with the Vader sabers. Not sure the Ben sabers glow from memory

Thanks I thought so
The seller was amazing and gave enough of a partial refund( offered full) to allow me to sell the original hilt to a friend for a bargain price so it would be appreciated for what it was not what it was missing.
I sold every figure I could bare to to raise the funds to get a ukg one which arrived today and I'm believably appears to be a Rev repo in a ukg case, it was listed and registered as an "I" hilt at 75% plus 75% figure 80% paint
However the Luke has the inside of his hand missing and too much wrong with him to ever make those grades plus the saber a.glows pink both tip and hilt b.you can see where one of the "i" from the Rev sabers "I I" has been removed c. Even see part of the v from the "Rev" on the otherside
Plus the case is not sealed along the bottom edge at the back allowing dust/moisture in etc. I can't believe ukg would miss these things and not deal a case correctly so someone has replicated the true figure and dt that ukg evaluated and registered.
I'm totally gutted and am waiting to hear from the seller

That doesn't sound good from what your are saying. Can you get a close up picture of the hand and saber? At least then you will be sure if it's a repro because there are alot of experienced collectors on here and they will help you.

The case isn't sealed at the back at the base and never was

Hand scooped out leading to split in the web

Ukg rating sticker

Grading sticker

You can see where the second "I" from the revs "I I" has been removed

Few more hard to get good photos of this through the case and on the phone but I think I've managed it

Yes they are good pictures hopefully someone will help you soon. I have never owned one of thoes figures and I don't have any graded loose figures. I don't know how well they should be sealed in those cases. Hopefully it turns out it's ok for you, I would love to own one of those figures.
Figures crossed it's not a repro.

the letters on the hilt do look suspect but isn't there always a tiny gap in these cases to allow some air to flow?

Ian

My DT Luke saber glows almost white as do my regular sabers. Darth glows too but not Ben.

I have a set of repro dts and none of them glow.

Top pic is real but it's hard to tell from my photos - sorry

Looks like someone's swapped a real DT out of your case for sure

Bottom pic is a fake dt

I've also looked at all my sabers under black light before now and they also glow but the report ones don't (including the Revelite DT sabre). It looks like someone's pulled a fast one at some point. It could have somehow got pass UKG or maybe the owner at some point in time managed to get the seal open cleanly from the graded box and switched it.

It's bad which ever way you look at it as it shows the real damage these repro's can do and also throws into question the reliability of graded items. The worse thing that could have happened is if the saber was switched out when it was being graded, I really hope not but I have seen graded comics that have been switched out for later editions when they've been away at the graders so these things can happen.

Hope you can send this back with no real issues as it deserves to go back to where it came from although you need to open an eBay case (if that's where you bought it from), and often they get the buyer to destroy it. Best of luck with it all and keep us all in the loop for future reference.

Ian

I've noticed that both UKG and AFA graded items tend to leave the lower rear edge unsealed - not entirely sure why but possibly to allow air to move and balance out changes in pressure.

Also, having liberated a couple of Mocs from graded cases, it is hard to see how a case could be opened and then resealed. In my experience tampering would be evident; by the time I've finished there are shards and melted stringy bits everywhere!

It sounds to me like someone at UKG had a bad day at the office - I don't know whether they take photos of the items when they're there - might it be worth speaking with them to try to corroborate whether the item in hand is the one they graded?

Also, whilst I think if it, mine is a graded 'I' hilt too - I'd like to break him out but feel sure I'd probably damage the saber in so doing. I'll take a photo tonight under black light so we can compare like for like.

Thanks guys! (Great uv dt pic :wink: )
If you can see what I'm saying from pictures you would totally of agreed if you held it in your hand.
Bit of a nightmaretho, The seller totally disagrees with me and is not happy but there is too much evidence for me to ever fool myself into being able to spend that amount of cash on a grail I'll never fully appreciate knowing its suspect.hes received it back and I'm waiting on him to refund me my money.
Wait for it to clear :/ and well I stil want a complete dt sooo bad but twice bitten! More than Twice as shy :|