Long Time suspected FAKE baggies scam / seller

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Dannywhiteley wrote:Could you not open it and have the figure checked for prints?
This should also be the nail in the coffin for Toni but who knows why no one has done it
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lejackal wrote:
Dannywhiteley wrote:Could you not open it and have the figure checked for prints?
This should also be the nail in the coffin for Toni but who knows why no one has done it
You have to get the original fingerprints first. I can't see either willingly doing that.
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lejackal wrote:
Dannywhiteley wrote:Could you not open it and have the figure checked for prints?
This should also be the nail in the coffin for Toni but who knows why no one has done it
You have to get the original fingerprints first. I can't see either willingly doing that.
Match Toni to his cabinet and Jeff to any other purchase from him?
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A shiny figure like a C3PO or DSD would be ideal.
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Frunkstar wrote:Remember that faked pin head han baggie that came up some time ago (can't remember where exactly - so if anyone does a link would be great) well it was a 1997 re issue han in a SW-a baggie, I have been informed via email that it was in jeff's box of baggies at one of the FF dates though not sure which, but he was informed it was a fake & a 97 issue han & from what I gather after he was told, he then simply threw it back in the box so some poor unsuspecting buyer would still get it, which they obviously did as I remember reading about it somewhere, if the guy who sent me that info is willing I will share full details one I hear once I hear back from them that it is ok to do so.
He had that for sale at the August 2016 Farthest From when I bought my very first baggies from him, he said it was unusual and he hadn't seen one before. It had the 'correct' grey blaster from the Classic Edition Four Pack too (1995, not 97)
So he was trying to sell a classic 4 pack Han in a vintage SW baggie???????????? :shock:
Did some more digging through my emails & came up with all this I had long since forgotten about the figure/baggie in question which I had long ago confirmed as a fake re-issued classic 4 pack han from 1997 :?

This is the baggie in question which he had for sale at FF august 2016
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Emails below about him asking about it, me confirming after doing all the leg work for him to confirm it's wrong (as usual) & him still not getting it & wanting to buy it after I have already confirmed it's a bloody fake or re-issued figure & there was NEVER a china coo han pin head & no way would it have ever made it to an ESB era baggie if there had been.

I will just let you read the emails for yourselves rather than going on at length, but you get the idea - ha asked me, I told him it's shit, he understands that (eventually) & then still buys it & several years later is still trying to sell it even though I am not the only one to have confirmed it's a fake to him :?
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]BTW - Jeff NEVER knowingly sells fake baggies



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Dannywhiteley wrote:A shiny figure like a C3PO or DSD would be ideal.
Indeed, but Jeff would need to be willing to give DNA & fingerprint samples as well as several confirmed fakes being open'd & checked in a lab, this all costs money, even if willing folks are going to need to open multiple baggies & Jeff will need to agree to samples who is covering the bills.
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Frank, the above email exchange goes someway to backing up Grant's 'doofus' description of Jeff. It doesn't sound like he's making these from that exchange.

But definitely backs up him knowingly selling fakes
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So if I play dumb and claim ignorance.. That's a free pass???
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tiefighterboy wrote:So if I play dumb and claim ignorance.. That's a free pass???
Errr no...

Where's the free pass, just said the emails back up Grants comments. He's clearly been knowingly selling fake baggies but is a bit slow on the uptake (to put it politely)
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spoons wrote:Frank, the above email exchange goes someway to backing up Grant's 'doofus' description of Jeff. It doesn't sound like he's making these from that exchange.

But definitely backs up him knowingly selling fakes
He maybe an idiot, but he's no fool Andy
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yoda wrote:Theres a saying it takes a wise man to act a fool.
Wise words indeed!!
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spoons wrote:
tiefighterboy wrote:So if I play dumb and claim ignorance.. That's a free pass???
Errr no...

Where's the free pass, just said the emails back up Grants comments. He's clearly been knowingly selling fake baggies but is a bit slow on the uptake (to put it politely)
Ignorance of the law is no defence - that saying rings true here imo. He might come across as an idiot but he knew what he was doing.
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maxf wrote:
spoons wrote:
tiefighterboy wrote:So if I play dumb and claim ignorance.. That's a free pass???
Errr no...

Where's the free pass, just said the emails back up Grants comments. He's clearly been knowingly selling fake baggies but is a bit slow on the uptake (to put it politely)
Ignorance of the law is no defence - that saying rings true here imo. He might come across as an idiot but he knew what he was doing.
I don't think I am saying anything different - h 'knowingly selling fake baggies'
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Frunkstar wrote:
spoons wrote:Frank, the above email exchange goes someway to backing up Grant's 'doofus' description of Jeff. It doesn't sound like he's making these from that exchange.

But definitely backs up him knowingly selling fakes
He maybe an idiot, but he's no fool Andy
Don't doubt that for a second Frank
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