Premier League 24/25 Thread
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**** ME!!!!!!!
Sigh, what a way to drop two points. Fair ****s to Everton they deserved a point and had Pool held on that would have been a superb result.
That was not a good game, it was like a throwback to 1990's football, albeit with 2020's standard tackles. Moyesy playing two big men up front and hitting them early at every given opportunity (cough hoofball) meant it was just a glorified game of head tennis at times. Still, no arguments Everton would have been hard done by if they left empty handed.
That equaliser does grate through. There was what looks very much like a foul on Salah on the edge of Everton's box 30 seconds before the goal, the fact it was borderline offside (the lines were needed) and there was a push on Konate that is right in the grey area of 'it affects him but us it enough for a foul?' all go against Liverpool.
But the bit that really gets me, and I was shouting this at the time, the ref signalled for 5 minutes of stoppage time and Everton scored in the 98th minute. Now, I know they can and do add extra time for stoppages in ET but ehh Pool weren't exactly going "full Newcastle/Jose." Granted they weren't rushing throw ins etc, but ehh who would in their place? There was a clash of heads between two Everton boys but that didn't take two and a half minutes. Where the **** Michael Oliver found that time from I will never know.
But then it's Michael Oliver. The guy who thought Lewis Skelly (spelling) deserved a red for that foul 70 yards from his own goal, the man who thought Jeremy Doku kicking Alexis MacAllister in the chest was fair enough and not a foul, the man who thought Jordan Pickford going in scissors style on VVD knee when the ball was on the ground and two yards away, wasn't a foul, the man who serially ruins games week in week out.
Dacoure goading the Liverpool fans a full time was ****ing stupid. Given how the game ended to run over and do that, he deserves more than a 1 game ban. Curtis Jones was daft to react, albeit it is understandable and Rio Ferdinand even said he did the same, still daft! The wanker who threw the bottle on needs a life ban from football. He can claim provocation, but there is no need or excuse for that. Bye bye dickhead. Slot and his coach seemed to get reds for telling Michael Oliver a few home truths, that obviously can't be allowed cos we all know referees are perfect and never make mistakes and even if they do (ehh like last night) and you point it out, the FA/PL will shaft YOU and protect the incompetent ref. And Oliver was not good last night, a lot of very strange calls, both ways, players booked for tackles that 2 minutes later weren't even fouls. Advantage played and when the player lost the ball seconds later, ie NO advantage came, he played on. All fans and players want is consistency. Normally they moan about inconsistency between refs and how incidents in one game are given and not given in another. Last night Michael Oliver was giving stuff one minute and then seconds later waving play on for an arguably more blatant foul. The only consistent thing about him is how shite he is
Still, keeps it interesting for the neutral.
The "foul" that lead to Everton's 1st
Slot's Red card. Clearly he said something, but I have seen many a manager approach a ref in much more aggressive ways and not get sent off. Not that that entitles Slot to be ****.
The non foul on Salah. Am I being a dick or is that not a foul all day long? doesn't get the ball, isn't even close to getting it, and clearly does get Salah's legs. Michael Oliver is 10 feet away with an unimpeded view.
the Konate non foul, you probably need to try and find a video of it as still an be misleading, and the coming together between two everton players with ehhh 13 seconds left. Obviously that necessitated 2 extra minutes. The Salah non foul above was 30 seconds before Everton scored and both were in the time Michael Oliver allowed after the stoppage for the coming together.....which happened with 13 seconds left
None of that is meant as a 'woe is me' BS post and I hope I ain't coming across as one of those Liverpool fans. It's more to highlight just how rubbish Michael Oliver is. Arsenal fans will already know. And he was bad both ways, Pool got a soft free that stopped an Everton break. Beto would have been 1 on 1 from just inside his own half with VVD coming across to cover. I can't find a video of that, but I'm highlighting it to show he ****ed things up both ways and it wasn't just Pool getting stinkers.
Sigh, what a way to drop two points. Fair ****s to Everton they deserved a point and had Pool held on that would have been a superb result.
That was not a good game, it was like a throwback to 1990's football, albeit with 2020's standard tackles. Moyesy playing two big men up front and hitting them early at every given opportunity (cough hoofball) meant it was just a glorified game of head tennis at times. Still, no arguments Everton would have been hard done by if they left empty handed.
That equaliser does grate through. There was what looks very much like a foul on Salah on the edge of Everton's box 30 seconds before the goal, the fact it was borderline offside (the lines were needed) and there was a push on Konate that is right in the grey area of 'it affects him but us it enough for a foul?' all go against Liverpool.
But the bit that really gets me, and I was shouting this at the time, the ref signalled for 5 minutes of stoppage time and Everton scored in the 98th minute. Now, I know they can and do add extra time for stoppages in ET but ehh Pool weren't exactly going "full Newcastle/Jose." Granted they weren't rushing throw ins etc, but ehh who would in their place? There was a clash of heads between two Everton boys but that didn't take two and a half minutes. Where the **** Michael Oliver found that time from I will never know.
But then it's Michael Oliver. The guy who thought Lewis Skelly (spelling) deserved a red for that foul 70 yards from his own goal, the man who thought Jeremy Doku kicking Alexis MacAllister in the chest was fair enough and not a foul, the man who thought Jordan Pickford going in scissors style on VVD knee when the ball was on the ground and two yards away, wasn't a foul, the man who serially ruins games week in week out.
Dacoure goading the Liverpool fans a full time was ****ing stupid. Given how the game ended to run over and do that, he deserves more than a 1 game ban. Curtis Jones was daft to react, albeit it is understandable and Rio Ferdinand even said he did the same, still daft! The wanker who threw the bottle on needs a life ban from football. He can claim provocation, but there is no need or excuse for that. Bye bye dickhead. Slot and his coach seemed to get reds for telling Michael Oliver a few home truths, that obviously can't be allowed cos we all know referees are perfect and never make mistakes and even if they do (ehh like last night) and you point it out, the FA/PL will shaft YOU and protect the incompetent ref. And Oliver was not good last night, a lot of very strange calls, both ways, players booked for tackles that 2 minutes later weren't even fouls. Advantage played and when the player lost the ball seconds later, ie NO advantage came, he played on. All fans and players want is consistency. Normally they moan about inconsistency between refs and how incidents in one game are given and not given in another. Last night Michael Oliver was giving stuff one minute and then seconds later waving play on for an arguably more blatant foul. The only consistent thing about him is how shite he is
Still, keeps it interesting for the neutral.
The "foul" that lead to Everton's 1st
Slot's Red card. Clearly he said something, but I have seen many a manager approach a ref in much more aggressive ways and not get sent off. Not that that entitles Slot to be ****.
The non foul on Salah. Am I being a dick or is that not a foul all day long? doesn't get the ball, isn't even close to getting it, and clearly does get Salah's legs. Michael Oliver is 10 feet away with an unimpeded view.
the Konate non foul, you probably need to try and find a video of it as still an be misleading, and the coming together between two everton players with ehhh 13 seconds left. Obviously that necessitated 2 extra minutes. The Salah non foul above was 30 seconds before Everton scored and both were in the time Michael Oliver allowed after the stoppage for the coming together.....which happened with 13 seconds left
None of that is meant as a 'woe is me' BS post and I hope I ain't coming across as one of those Liverpool fans. It's more to highlight just how rubbish Michael Oliver is. Arsenal fans will already know. And he was bad both ways, Pool got a soft free that stopped an Everton break. Beto would have been 1 on 1 from just inside his own half with VVD coming across to cover. I can't find a video of that, but I'm highlighting it to show he ****ed things up both ways and it wasn't just Pool getting stinkers.
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Arsenal should have gone for Rashford that really would have messed their season up.
Seriously though they should have gone all out for Watkins.
Shocking from Liverpool last night they should have a 20 point deduction for that, they would still win the league.
Slot should have said to Oliver your a ref not the lead role in a Christmas pantomime. But I guess he said something worse.
Seriously though they should have gone all out for Watkins.
Shocking from Liverpool last night they should have a 20 point deduction for that, they would still win the league.
Slot should have said to Oliver your a ref not the lead role in a Christmas pantomime. But I guess he said something worse.
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@edd_jedi must be a bit happier tonight.
That was a piss poor game though.
Still, Wolves played Liverpool off the ****ing park for 45 minutes. Pool didn't have a shot in the second half, and that tells a very accurate reflection of the half.
Jota should have been booked for the dive, why didn't he just stay on his feet and score or roll it left?
Konate could have gone but I don't think the two fouls warranted a red, not that should come in to it. On another week he goes.
And how nice of City to find form…..right before Liverpool go to the Etihad
That was a piss poor game though.
Still, Wolves played Liverpool off the ****ing park for 45 minutes. Pool didn't have a shot in the second half, and that tells a very accurate reflection of the half.
Jota should have been booked for the dive, why didn't he just stay on his feet and score or roll it left?
Konate could have gone but I don't think the two fouls warranted a red, not that should come in to it. On another week he goes.
And how nice of City to find form…..right before Liverpool go to the Etihad
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On this point I've heard pool have over delivered vs performance quite a bit. I can't comment as to be honest I rarely get time to watch MOTD, never mind whole matches (beyond Arsenal)
I asked on an Arsenal forum today should we be more worried about saying on your coattails, or actually maintaining what gap we have behind us. Still, at least our newest 6 has turned his number upside down.And how nice of City to find form…..right before Liverpool go to the Etihad
15 WEEKS since Spurs last won at home apparently!
it's been a horrible run, hopefully the only way is up now. Saying that I didn't enjoy most of the game, while the first half was pretty open with decent chances at both ends, I thought we were incredibly lucky to hang on in the second half, United could easily have won that if not for some poor finishing. The Spurs defence is just so easy to slice through.I would happily get battered by City in a couple of weeks if we beat Ipswich next week. Knowing Spurs it will be the other way round.
I feel you, MOTD is a young man's game, sod staying up til midnight with three kids
Is three kids congrats or commiserations? I'm leaning strongly to the latter!
RE, Pool @lejackal, ehhhh. It sort of depends on your persepctive. They are a lot more controlled under Slot. Under Klopp they would have dropped more points but probably won more games by a bigger margin. Slot has fine tuned them. If that qualifies as over delivering then yeah. I would say it's a case of being much better at game management and not pushing on too much.
I watch bits of MOTD on a Sunday morning before everyone else is up. Most weeks I don't get to see it all. Zero chance I'm awake that late on a Sat night. Rock and roll!
Ohh and, yes, the Spurs Utd game was **** football, but given the club's form and league position, it wasn't surprising.
RE, Pool @lejackal, ehhhh. It sort of depends on your persepctive. They are a lot more controlled under Slot. Under Klopp they would have dropped more points but probably won more games by a bigger margin. Slot has fine tuned them. If that qualifies as over delivering then yeah. I would say it's a case of being much better at game management and not pushing on too much.
I watch bits of MOTD on a Sunday morning before everyone else is up. Most weeks I don't get to see it all. Zero chance I'm awake that late on a Sat night. Rock and roll!
Ohh and, yes, the Spurs Utd game was **** football, but given the club's form and league position, it wasn't surprising.
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Some reward for winning the CL group stage that!
I'd rather have Arsenal or Villa's draw.
No chance Arsenal get past either Madrid side. Real will be too street smart and Atleti will just kick you to death.
Still, it's a round further than Pool will get
And City to beat Pool on Sunday. Thy have been shite all year but peak City will turn up this weekend.
I'd rather have Arsenal or Villa's draw.
No chance Arsenal get past either Madrid side. Real will be too street smart and Atleti will just kick you to death.
Still, it's a round further than Pool will get
And City to beat Pool on Sunday. Thy have been shite all year but peak City will turn up this weekend.
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Surely you can beat PSG?Some reward for winning the CL group stage that!
I'd rather have Arsenal or Villa's draw.
No chance Arsenal get past either Madrid side. Real will be too street smart and Atleti will just kick you to death.
Still, it's a round further than Pool will get
And City to beat Pool on Sunday. Thy have been shite all year but peak City will turn up this weekend.
I think this is Pool's rough patch. The players look tired. Slot hasn't rotated much this season. On the rare occasions he has, he has rotated an entire team and lost, to Plymouth and PSV.
The likes of Harvey Elliott, Endo and Chiesa have been woefully under used. Although the latter was utterly appalling against Plymouth.
I just have a horrible feeling the next few weeks are gonna pretty grim.
PSG have employed the novel tactic of actually playing like a team and expecting the forwards to do more than just stand there. Weirdly it has made them a much better side.
The Pool of Sept-Dec I would fancy to have too much for the, but I have a horrible feeling this team is running on empty.
I hope I'm wrong, and I hope Arsenal duff whatever Madrid side they play (assuming they do the 'usual Arsenal' and lose the first CL knock round they play)
The likes of Harvey Elliott, Endo and Chiesa have been woefully under used. Although the latter was utterly appalling against Plymouth.
I just have a horrible feeling the next few weeks are gonna pretty grim.
PSG have employed the novel tactic of actually playing like a team and expecting the forwards to do more than just stand there. Weirdly it has made them a much better side.
The Pool of Sept-Dec I would fancy to have too much for the, but I have a horrible feeling this team is running on empty.
I hope I'm wrong, and I hope Arsenal duff whatever Madrid side they play (assuming they do the 'usual Arsenal' and lose the first CL knock round they play)
Looks like the EL is set up for Jose, beat Rangers and he gets a potential quarter final against his old team Roma, beat them and he has a potential semi final against his old team Utd (who will lose to Sociedad, but anyway) and win that and he gets a potential final against his old side Spurs
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Where is he now? Turkey?
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My initial view of the two sides of the draw was that (a) I'd much prefer the other side, and (b) our teams seem almost destined to be thrust together at the end. Destiny is obviously somewhat far fetched, almost romantical, but there you go - we wouldn't all be enthralled if we didn't think our teams could do something special. Win the league, the cup, the promotion, the derby, survive the drop etc etc
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In our office we have Liverpool fans, Man U, Man City, leeds and SW can image what its like when a game is coming up glad I don't follow FB
Aye, the ehhh footballing colossus that is……..Fenerbache.
How the mighty have fallen.
